I have seen very little of Nietzsche brought up in bitcoin dialogue. I will simply mention briefly mention for those who have not, the sort of person who searches for truth in the world, in bitcoin, and many other things, is likely to greatly enjoy reading The Dawn of Day.
Anyway, I suspect there will be a mass awakening of sorts, but by mass, it will not actually be mass, and within bitcoin, there are masses, and are the masses defined by amount of bitcoin, or type of person? Who are the ones who will read Nietzsche and what will they do?
Does one purchase being elite, or does one become elite? Do you think some chair will be yours to purchase and your values will simply emerge?
Frankly, most bitcoiners are repulsive and pathetic, for they have no values of their own. A man without values cannot call himself sovereign. A man who simply survives the state is pathetic, and makes himself decadent by declaring some grand superiority in his vain existence, does he not?
Do you not know everyone sees how pathetic a creature the bitcoiner is and that this is why the world does not care so much for bitcoin? When will you do justice to yourself and embody your philosophy rather than either shout or retreat? Are you truly so impotent, so empty, so without preference as to what you will reshape? Oh, bitcoin will do it? Congratulations, you are of the herd. Good day, sirs!
I agree there is a fuckton of hypocrisy and self serving virtue signalling and Big talk no walk echo chamber hopium.
This certainly and quite rightly will and does put a lot of people off entering the dialogue.
I have read many of the existentialist writers and enjoy their searching for the truth. they are bold and free in their thinking.
If God is dead then where do you find values, truth and meaning?
In the contest of ideas that are the foundation of democracy, science and reason.
Can we free ourselves from the state completely?
I doubt that as the modern economy is so complex and requires so many intricate contractual relationships to exist and be enforced.
The state is still required to provide the conditions within which people can create, trade and live in relative peace.
But Bitcoin does provide a model of human interaction and exchange free of state structures- it is an amazing revolutionary model for how we could reduce centralised power structures, but because Bitcoin protocol does not compel anyone to use it it requires that enough people recognise its value and use it anyway, as a free choice.
Here on SNs we have an experimental social media platform using V4V P2P ethos- yet some regular participants have not bothered to attach LN wallets and so their participation is mostly denominated in CC shitcoins.
Its easy to talk the talk but how many will walk the walk and attach both sending and receiving wallets and build a stronger LN and stronger more censorship resistant SNs?
Upzapped, but if you just think about tools in a circular way, are you not operating in negation to the world?
Bitcoin is not of the "fiat world"
Can you be in the world without being of it?
Where is the output that makes this place anything other than a "circlejerk"?
I have always enjoyed Bruckner's music.
The next gen of elites will listen to it
I think it's good to read Nietzsche for the entertainment value and to appetize the philosophical erm appetite. There are couple useful ideas in Thus Spake Zarathustra. I think like Ayn Rand people don't take him seriously because he didn't show his work. What exactly is your point and how did YOU come to it?
I tried to fix things / overcome the world.
I held to certain standards rather than playing "the game."
Just found a bunch of non serious dishonest people that get in the way of the people who actually do things, and no one actually cares.
My point is that bitcoiners are mostly decadent and pathetic "faggots" (in the mimetic/herd sense) who don't actually do anything and want someone else to solve everything for them, in this case, the someone else is everyone else, in the future, a negation of their present life, which isn't bad, just a type. Perhaps bitcoiners will start realizing this and actually do something with their supposedly superior intellects?
Does that help clarify? :)
Obviously, you do things for entertainment, hence, your use of the term "good" to describe the reading of Nietzsche and revealing you know nothing about how to speak like Zarathustra.
Yes, the people are retarded and need to be "shown" things. You cannot be told what the matrix is, as they say. Am I really just here to get people to understand Nietzsche by having been just the right type of retard myself? Haha.
I haven't read Zarathustra yet so I am writing this like a normal person who cares and is sloppy. Getting to points directly has a certain repellent vulgarity to it, and despite your request for it, there was no obligation to give it thusly.
Do you do anything other than criticize dead men with half punches of irony who have achieved far more in their life, under far worse circumstances, than what you have done with yours? Would you like to not waste your life? Maybe the staying humble thing was said as a contrast to the near total of absence of humility. Isn't this the poison of easy victory? Perhaps consensus is that hodling is hard is because bitcoin is for soft men, weird men who notice things that may be true, but perhaps everything is mostly soft men. The herd might be the 99.9%. Everyone wants to feel special I guess. Me, I am happy to know I am no one. I came to the same conclusion as the others in looking back at my life and the present, which is that I tol do not care, and will not call my own pain "bad."
Perhaps bitcoin, in this era, is a machine that makes soft men impotent who might otherwise do something with their life. Who knows, I am largely just speculating and commenting here, a lower form of thought.
Interesting connection between Bitcoin and Nietzsche. It’s true that Bitcoin attracts a certain mindset — the search for truth and the rejection of traditional systems.
The idea of a “mass awakening” is intriguing, but as you pointed out, Bitcoin won’t be for everyone. It seems more like an intellectual elite, those who are not just following trends but questioning the system.
I believe Bitcoin attracts people who value freedom and responsibility, but not just in terms of wealth. It’s a mindset shift that affects how we see the world.
As for Nietzsche, I wonder if his philosophy might help some Bitcoiners navigate the moral complexities of decentralization.
In the end, being “elite” isn’t about wealth; it’s about how you think and how you approach life’s challenges.
Maybe those who read Nietzsche will be the ones who understand the true potential of Bitcoin, both as an economic system and as a philosophical movement.
What do you mean by moral complexities of decentralization?
Well said.
Some moron downzapped your comment and god knows why.
Just upzapped it to show I agree with what you wrote and so others can see it.
Thus spoke Zarathustra
God is dead