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I have a virtual office for my business. As part of their VO services, they offer a telephone number service that is a VOIP thing... requires me to put an App on my smartphone and then I can get calls through that app.

Well, I already have a phone number that I got through my regular cell carrier. Today, I called the virtual office company and asked them if I could port my existing number to their service. the guy on the phone told me "oh, it looks like this is a Tier 0 number, so we can port it no problem"

So, then I asked the robot about what these Tier numbers are all about. Here's the robot's output in raw.... hope it's helpful:

In common telecom & caller-ID reputation contexts, phone number “tiers” don’t refer to the digits themselves but to how the number, the network it’s on, or the service associated with it is classified, often affecting trust, call delivery, and spam labeling. The specific meaning of Tier 0–3 depends on the framework being used—but two broad interpretations are typical:


1) Carrier / Network Tiers (Indirectly affecting phone numbers)1) Carrier / Network Tiers (Indirectly affecting phone numbers)

This isn’t a classification of the number itself but of the network/provider responsible for routing it. Larger carriers are considered higher “tier”:

  • Tier 1 carriers — Global backbone operators with their own extensive networks (e.g., AT&T, Verizon). They don’t need to pay other networks to reach the whole Internet/telephony ecosystem. Tier 1 status often correlates with better caller ID propagation and reputation handling because of direct infrastructure and peering. ([thousandeyes.com][1])
  • Tier 2 carriers — Regional/national operators with some peering but still pay for transit on parts of the network. ([thousandeyes.com][1])
  • Tier 3 carriers — Local/mobile resellers or smaller networks that rely entirely on upstream transit from other carriers. ([thousandeyes.com][1])

In practice, a number issued on a Tier 1 network may be less likely to be misclassified or have caller ID issues than one on a Tier 3 network, but this is about infrastructure and routing, not a numeric property of the number itself.


2) Reputation / Service Tiers for Phone Numbers (e.g., spam/legitimacy scoring)2) Reputation / Service Tiers for Phone Numbers (e.g., spam/legitimacy scoring)

In caller-ID and number reputation systems used by carriers and analytics platforms, Tier 0–3 might refer to the level of validation, trust, or labeling applied to a phone number’s calling behavior. Unlike carrier tiers, this classification isn’t standardized industry-wide, but in some reputation systems you’ll see a tiered risk categorization roughly like this:

  • Tier 0Clean / trusted / fully authenticated numbers
    • The call is validated by authentication frameworks (like STIR/SHAKEN in the U.S.) and shows a verified caller ID.
    • These numbers have a strong reputation score with minimal risk indicators.
  • Tier 1Low-risk/primary business numbers
    • Typically legitimate businesses with good usage patterns, low complaint rates, and consistent caller ID information.
    • Not flagged by carriers or third-party databases.
  • Tier 2Moderate risk / unverified or mixed-use numbers
    • May lack full authentication or show some patterns (e.g., higher volume, unfamiliar to carriers) that raise mild suspicion.
    • Potential for flags like “Potential Spam” depending on behavior.
  • Tier 3High-risk / flagged numbers
    • Strong indicators of unwanted or abusive calling behavior (spam, scam, fraud) either via carrier algorithms, third-party lists, or user reports.
    • Calls from these numbers are most likely to be blocked or labeled “Spam Likely,” “Scam Risk,” etc. ([NobelBiz][2])

These tiers act like a reputation ladder (similar to a credit score): lower tier = better trust & delivery; higher numerical tier = greater suspicion or filtering applied.


Why this mattersWhy this matters

  • Caller ID display: A number in Tier 0–1 is more likely to show accurate caller ID and reach recipients without spam flags.
  • Blocking & labeling: Tier 2–3 numbers are more susceptible to algorithmic flags or automated blocks by carriers and consumer apps.
  • Outbound success: Businesses monitor and improve reputation tiers to increase answer rates and avoid spam labels. ([callblitz.com][3])

Short conceptual summaryShort conceptual summary

Carrier tiers (1–3) classify the network/provider behind the phone number, with Tier 1 being the most foundational.

Phone number reputation tiers (0–3) classify the trustworthiness or risk of the number’s calling behavior, with Tier 0 cleanest and Tier 3 riskiest. These reputation tiers affect how calls are displayed and whether they’re blocked or labeled as spam. (

[kixie.com][4]

)


If you’re thinking specifically about reputation scoring tiers used by analytics/labeling systems (Spam Risk, Scam Likely, etc.), let me know and I can map those onto this Tier 0–3 model with examples.

[1]: https://www.thousandeyes.com/learning/techtorials/isp-tiers?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Internet Service Provider 3-Tier Model"

[2]: https://nobelbiz.com/blog/how-to-avoid-getting-your-number-labeled-as-spam/?utm_source=chatgpt.com "A Guide to Call Blocking and Labeling, and Phone Number ..."

[3]: https://callblitz.com/blog/10-ways-to-manage-your-caller-id-reputation?utm_source=chatgpt.com "10 Ways to Manage Your Caller ID Reputation"

[4]: https://www.kixie.com/sales-blog/caller-id-reputation-what-it-is-why-it-matters-and-how-to-monitor-it/?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Caller ID Reputation: What It Is, Why It Matters, and How to ..."

I tried a while back to get a new account for Telegram that wasn't linked to my actual phone number. But Telegram rejected all my fake (purchased specifically for trying to do this) numbers.

Any better ideas?

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if you're less financially constrained than you are curious about whether you could get it done, consider offering somebody money to sign up the phone for you at one of those tiny cellphone stores... with the cheapest option they have. or maybe this strategy combined with Silent.Link

in the US, there are vendors like Mint or Ting (probably several other options) which could also be an option.

here's the slop:

If your goal is privacy (separate line) rather than impersonality/evasion, the clean way is: get a real mobile number that can receive SMS/voice codes, because Telegram sign-up is phone-number based. (

[Telegram][1]

) I can’t help with ways to get a number that’s “strictly not associated” with you by bypassing carrier rules/KYC or app ToS, but you can keep things reasonably compartmentalized and still be honest.

Best practical options (US)Best practical options (US)

1) Prepaid SIM/eSIM from a mainstream carrier or MVNO (most reliable for Telegram)

  • This is the most dependable for Telegram verification because it’s a standard mobile number (not “obvious VoIP”).
  • In the US, prepaid SIM purchase/activation is often light on ID requirements compared to many countries (though policies vary by seller and payment method). ([TravelTomTom][2])
  • Good, widely available prepaid ecosystems: T-Mobile Prepaid (easy BYOP), AT&T Prepaid, and MVNOs like US Mobile / Boost / Google Fi (plan quality varies by network/coverage). ([WIRED][3])
  • If your device supports eSIM and you want minimal friction: Mint Mobile eSIM is a common low-cost route. ([Mint Mobile][4])

2) “Burner number” apps (convenient, but sometimes flaky for verification)

  • Services like Burner market themselves for Telegram use, but VoIP numbers are more likely to hit “number not accepted/banned” issues over time than a carrier SIM. ([burnerapp.com][5])
  • Google Voice is less “anonymous” now in practice: Google states that as of Jan 30, 2026, users requesting a new Voice number may need identity verification before messaging/calls work. ([Google Help][6])

What I’d do for lil’ kev (honest + robust)What I’d do for lil’ kev (honest + robust)

  • Buy a cheap prepaid SIM/eSIM dedicated to the device/account, and treat it like an “ops line.”
  • After you register Telegram, immediately enable Two-Step Verification (password + recovery email) so the account isn’t hanging entirely on SIM/SMS forever. ([Telegram][7])

If you tell me whether lil’ kev’s device supports eSIM and whether you care more about lowest cost or best coverage in your area, I’ll narrow it to 2–3 specific plan picks.

[1]: https://telegram.org/faq?utm_source=chatgpt.com "Telegram FAQ"

[2]: https://www.traveltomtom.net/destinations/north-america/usa/best-prepaid-usa-sim-cards?utm_source=stacker.news "How To Buy a Prepaid Sim Card in the USA (UPDATE July ..."

[3]: https://www.wired.com/gallery/best-prepaid-phone-plans/?utm_source=stacker.news "7 Best Prepaid Phone Plans (2026)"

[4]: https://www.mintmobile.com/esim/?utm_source=chatgpt.com "eSIM Card Plans for Dual SIM Card Phones"

[5]: https://www.burnerapp.com/blog/burner-number-for-telegram?utm_source=stacker.news "Burner Number for Telegram"

[6]: https://support.google.com/voice/community-guide/405972015/identity-verification-now-required-before-you-can-claim-a-google-voice-number?hl=en&utm_source=stacker.news "Identity verification now required before you can claim a ..."

[7]: https://telegram.org/blog/sessions-and-2-step-verification?utm_source=stacker.news "Active Sessions and Two-Step Verification"

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16 sats \ 0 replies \ @Ohtis 17h

Makes sense now—tiers are about carrier reputation and infrastructure, not the digits. Good to know before messing with my own number.

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118 sats \ 4 replies \ @adlai 25 Feb

your reference links include utm_source=chatgpt.com

might want to delete those, or even replace the parameter with stacker.news ...

looks like you still have 7 minutes left for editing, could also fix the footnote formatting...

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wow... interesting catch. I didn't notice them in my enthusiasm to share the (alleged haha) findings.

in the future, I'll look for that. thanks :)

(side note: it was chatjippity that used as the robot, but it's an account paid for by some guy in another state that I've never met... who also shares the account with 10 or so other people... obscurity++ (though I'm sure it doesn't do much for genuine security) )

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How does this account sharing stuff work? I know of other people doing this, but I'm not sure it would work for me, because (Claude, anyway), I'm running through my weekly limits, and buying extra usage..

So do none of these people actually use AI very much, or very intensively?

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all I know is that it's a pro account. wish I could offer more...

here's part of the system prompt

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fixed it here: #1442791

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Interesting thanks

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