228 sats \ 2 replies \ @k00b 30 Nov 2023 \ parent \ on: Technological determinism and splitting the atom of cause and effect bitcoin
There is something here. Ownership is a major input to behavior. In the context of SN, I tend to frame it as private property (ownership) vs a commons. Part of SN's mission (I think) is to inject more ownership into the digital commons. Private property just scales better.
I loathe litterers too. I loathe all chronic externalizers though. I find it disgusting. We used to live next to a party AirBnB and I would spend at least an hour of each day plotting revenge.
The owner of the airbnb had ownership, but her ownership had boundaries and she would knowingly "litter" outside of the boundaries. If her property were instead a commons and she were merely a member, all things being equal she would probably litter more.
It seems ownership makes people behave better but only to the extent that they internalize the costs of their ownership. Does bitcoin make people internalize its costs? Not all of them, but it does couple ownership with its benefits so bitcoiners are at least internalizing some costs of ownership. We might also argue owning an appreciating asset invests us in the future such that bitcoiners are more averse than average to future costs.
It's interesting to imagine increasing internalized costs further. Perhaps if bitcoin could only be acquired by personally mining it we'd have more end-to-end ownership. The tradeoffs of that are unclear though.
We used to live next to a party AirBnB and I would spend at least an hour of each day plotting revenge.
God I wish I did not understand so totally what you mean. I used to live downstairs from a similar thing and the amount of murder fantasizing would have me institutionalized if anyone could read minds.
Does bitcoin make people internalize its costs? Not all of them, but it does couple ownership with its benefits so bitcoiners are at least internalizing some costs of ownership.
I like this idea, and I like trying to think about ways that btc adoption could be incremental on some of these weirdly philosophical points. It makes me weirdly optimistic, that there are these forces that are subtle, but at the scale of billions of people over decades, incredibly consequential. Just a modest internalization of costs could result in something dramatic.
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It's comforting sometimes to know others share our experiences.
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