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Dead "First-wave" Lightning Network services & apps

4368 sats \ 20 comments \ @notgeld 3 Jan lightning

Hey everybody,

Let's do some historical research together.

Please post links and proofs of dead services that have been working on the Lightning network around 2019.

Here, I found another one in my bookmarks: SMS paid in LN.

https://lnsms.world/

Proof:

I know quite a lot of them: LNTXBOT Telegram Bot, Bitcoin Lightning Wallet (BLW), Ptarmigan (LN Node), Bottlepay (pivoted several times, basically LN Wallet with social networks integrations), HodlHodl Lightning (announced relaunch though).

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1270 sats \ 1 reply \ @benthecarman 4 Jan

RIP to the eclair desktop app

100 sats \ 0 replies \ @notgeld OP 4 Jan

Legit. Eclair Mobile, too. But at least it was replaced with Phoenix.

1051 sats \ 3 replies \ @OT 4 Jan

OBW

Well, its still kinda working

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @notgeld OP 4 Jan

No, OBW became a thing after the announcement about discontinuing LN in SBW. And SBW itself was released in 2021. I'd call SBW a "second-wave" project.

1 sat \ 1 reply \ @OT 4 Jan

No one is working on it anymore. I hope someone can pick up where fiatjaf left cause it was my favorite LN wallet.

101 sats \ 0 replies \ @notgeld OP 4 Jan

Valet is another fork of SBW.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.btcontract.walletfiat

It may soon incorporate some of the job done in the OBW project. There is no money in so no promises, sorry.

693 sats \ 1 reply \ @nullcount 4 Jan

LightningPowerUsers.com (Bonus: Joule Extension)

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @notgeld OP 4 Jan

Yes, by Pierre Rochard. I think he is not on SN.

21 sats \ 2 replies \ @031ef7d322 4 Jan

Casa was a major contributor in the early days. In addition to the Casa Node, they produced SatsApp that rewarded node runners for pinging their node daily (10k sats/day, IIRC) and provided a user-friendly identifier to receive LN payments called a SatsTag (similar to Lightning Addresses but only available through SatsApp).

https://web.archive.org/web/20191226195929/https://blog.keys.casa/sats-app-available-everyone-even-without-casa-node/

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @notgeld OP 4 Jan

They have pivoted to plugging in ETH and, recently, stablecoins, so it counts. I remember their weird nodes with old RPi and additional cable.

88 sats \ 0 replies \ @031ef7d322 5 Jan

Ethereum was available in Keymaster (the original name of the Casa multisig app) back in 2018, before the original Casa Node was released:

https://web.archive.org/web/20181006160117/https://medium.com/casa/storing-your-ethereum-safely-f586e4695f38

Looking back, it’s more like they temporarily removed it rather than pivoted. But all of that is unrelated to the fact that they ran SatsApp to incentivize early LN nodes to stay online, and that the majority of LN nodes on the network were probably Casa Nodes for a while (definitely the majority of tor nodes).

21 sats \ 2 replies \ @kevin 4 Jan

Lastbit 😭 - still no replacement that lets me top up a card via lightning in the EU. If anyone knows of one, please drop a link

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @notgeld OP 4 Jan

Remember the name but struggle to recall what exactly it was about. It is probably another victim of AML5 - that deserves another thread.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kevin 16 Jan

They pivoted into becoming some kind of platform provider called Striga - Bitwala uses them and has a card but don't support topping up using Lightning, which is a shame.

52 sats \ 1 reply \ @dieselbaby 4 Jan

I don't know if anyone needs this info or not, but I figured since you mentioned a Lightning-powered SMS service in the OP, just to let you know, there is an alternative that is up and working, that I have personally used a bunch of times without issue - it's quite good and the prices are very reasonable, it's a great way to verify via SMS for some of those annoying websites which want to require your phone number, and to remain 'anonymous' (or as much as we want to trick ourselves into thinking this). Their website is https://sms4sats.com - costs 3k sats for the basic service, but they have other stuff on there (such as renting a number to use for longer time periods).

21 sats \ 0 replies \ @notgeld OP 4 Jan

Yes. It is known, sms4sats survived. It has some issues, though. But @pseudozach does a lot for it to be reliable. Thank you @pseudozach.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @notgeld OP 5 Jan

Etleneum project by Fiatjaf, too.

An example of a community voting contract.