The love of Money is the root of all evil:

(1 Timothy 6: to 10)
If thou lend money to any of my people that is poor by thee, thou shalt not be to him as an usurer, neither shalt thou lay upon him usury. Exodus 22:25
Take no usury of him, or increase... thou shalt not give him thy money upon usury. Leviticus 25:36-37 Unto thy brother thou shalt not lend upon usury: That the Lord thy God may bless thee. Deuteronomy 23:20
In the early Church, any interest on debt was considered usury. Read below to see what interest (usury) on debts, a violation of God's Law, is doing to America.

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The National Debt

In 1901 the national debt of the United States was less than $1 billion. It stayed at less than $1 billion until we got into World War 1. Then it jumped to $25 billion. Between 1918 and 1941, on the eve of World War II, the national debt just about doubled - from $25 to $49 billion. Between 1942 and 1952, the debt went from $72 billion to $265 billion. In 1962 it was $303 billion. Eight years later, in 1970, it was $383 billion. Between 1971 and 1976 it rose from $409 billion to $631 billion. The estimated debt at the end of this year is $727 billion, and next year it is expected to top $800 billion - having nearly doubled in the past eight years. If the present trend continues, and there is no evidence whatsoever that it will not continue, we can expect the national debt to nearly double again within the next six to eight years. By then, the interest on the debt alone should be in the $400 billion a year range. Eventually, the government will own nothing, the people will own nothing, the banks will own everything.
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This is a chapter of the book

Billions for Bankers & Debts for the People

The Real Story of the Money-Control Over America - by Pastor Sheldon Emry
Give it a read! Start from the...
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Umm although money is everything
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why? do you think you can't live without money?
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You could live without money, but then you wouldn't be posting here, because you wouldn't have a PC or smartphone.
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there are other ways to pay without money, and get anything one may need
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You could pay with cows, but that would make cows money. A particularly inefficient form thereof.
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The only people who praise the barter system have never bartered.
Evil is the root of money. If we could operate under the honor system we would not need money. We demand immediate cash payment from people or strangers we donโ€™t trust.
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If we could operate under the honor system we would not need money.
Please tell me more about this! Any way, we can learn more on how to go in this direction?
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If my brother wants to buy something from me he can pay me later.
If a stranger wants to buy something from me he has to pay now.
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Study Austrian economics and you'll understand the value of money. As well as time preference, which interest rates arise from.
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I struggle to understand the value of fiat money. I understand money as debt, IOU, a promise to pay you later... or never!
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Fiat is valuable because others will accept it in trade for things you want.
A debt, IOU, all of these things are credit. Credit works in a high trust environment, and is more efficient than money. A tribe less than Dunbarโ€™s number doesnโ€™t need money. Credit, in the form of reputation, is sufficient.
For strangers, money is essential because neither party knows the reputation of the other. Or maybe they have a bad reputation. With money, antagonistic parties can still trade and benefit from the trade. With credit, the trade would never take place. Money allows trade that might turn enemies into friends.
Money is not the root of all evil. The LOVE of money is, because itโ€™s better to love your wife, your children, and God. Loving money gets in the way of that.
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The Garden of Eden was the entire Earth, bands of people hunting aurochs and mammoths. Must have been something. Not really a garden, more of a hunting ground.
Agriculture was the great sin of man, chaining us to the land and killing each other for it.
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Umm it so bitter truth ๐Ÿ˜ž
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โ€œSo you think that money is the root of all evil?โ€, said Francisco dโ€™Anconia. โ€œHave you ever asked what is the root of money? Money is a tool of exchange, which canโ€™t exist unless there are goods produced and men able to produce them. Money is the material shape of the principle that men who wish to deal with one another must deal by trade and give value for value. Money is not the tool of the moochers, who claim your product by tears, or of the looters, who take it from you by force. Money is made possible only by the men who produce. Is this what you consider evil?
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Money rests on the axiom that every man is the owner of his mind and his effort. Money allows no power to prescribe the value of your effort except the voluntary choice of the man who is willing to trade you his effort in return. Money permits you to obtain for your goods and your labor that which they are worth to the men who buy them, but no more. Money permits no deals except those to mutual benefit by the unforced judgment of the traders. Money demands of you the recognition that men must work for their own benefit, not for their own injury, for their gain, not their loss โ€” the recognition that they are not beasts of burden, born to carry the weight of your misery โ€” that you must offer them values, not wounds โ€” that the common bond among men is not the exchange of suffering, but the exchange of goods. Money demands that you sell, not your weakness to menโ€™s stupidity, but your talent to their reason; it demands that you buy, not the shoddiest they offer, but the best that your money can find. And when men live by trade โ€” with reason, not force, as their final arbiter โ€” it is the best product that wins, the best performance, the man of best judgment and highest ability โ€” and the degree of a manโ€™s productiveness is the degree of his reward. This is the code of existence whose tool and symbol is money. Is this what you consider evil?
โ€” Francisco Danconia, Atlas Shrugged
I agree that our national debt is ridiculous, but money is not the problem here.
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Thanks for bringing it up, great reference!
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1 Timothy 6:10 Money in itself is neither good nor bad. It is the love of money (covetousness) that is evil, and indeed the root of all types of evil. Therefore, it is not wrong for believers to be well offโ€”so long as they do not take pride in their riches but use them โ€œto do good.โ€
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If with money you mean bitcoin, then I love money too!
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I guess us bitcoiners are gonna burn in hell then.
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I guess it is just about how you use it, if you exchange it back for fiat you're definitely going to burn in hell then.
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I don't the almighty lord cares what type of money it is, digital or phyisical, fiat or crypto. We all burn together.
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The National debt is 'the proof of love's.
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I thought it was a wealth measurement scale!
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If we talk about money in terms of fiat, that's no money at all!
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From my perspective it applies to any type of money, shells, stones, salt, cigarettes, rice... whatever you're using!
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Interest on debt is already 900 billion almost. 897 billion to be more exact
1935 social security act 1965 Medicare and Medicaid and expansion of Aid to Families with Dependent Children or AFDC
Medicare has surpassed Social Security as our biggest expense and itโ€™s 30 years younger
Timothy is New Testament Exodus is Old Testament Deuteronomy is Old Testament
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Medicare has surpassed Social Security as our biggest expense and itโ€™s 30 years younger
Do you think there gonna be new one coming, surpassing the Oldies?
Timothy is New Testament Exodus is Old Testament Deuteronomy is Old Testament
I mis-formatted the third one from Leviticus ...
Why is important to differentiate between the Old and the New?
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I donโ€™t understand your first question
Old Testament predates Christianity. The Catholic Church starts with the New Testament.
Only Christians believe in the New Testament while 3 religions accept the old yes
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Thanks make more sense now. But aren't all just interpretations of the same source books? Leviticus 25:36-37 for example is part of the Book of Leviticus, which is the third book of the Hebrew Bible (Tanakh) and the Christian Old Testament.

Regarding the first question, do you think there gonna be new ways/excuses to spend/create more money/debt?
I mean, in 1935 there was the need for social security, in 1965 Medicare and Medicaid etc... what will be next?
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Iโ€™m sure there will be new crises to justify more expensive programs
There was no need or demand for social security in 1935.
There was no need or demand for Medicare
There was no need or demand for Medicaid.
There was no need or demand for Obama care in 2009
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