Jockeying for power is always a feature in politics, but when it comes to getting ahead in Trump world, it’s barely below the surface. Even before the election, in fact, some top Republicans appeared to be maneuvering for a potential future in Donald Trump’s next administration.

McGraw discussed the potential makeup of Trump’s next Cabinet in a Playbook Deep Dive podcast conversation with Playbook editor Mike DeBonis, who covered House Republicans during the first Trump administration as they struggled to turn his unorthodox campaign agenda into actual policy.

“The Paul Ryan party is gone,” DeBonis said. “It’s Donald Trump’s party.”

Mike DeBonis: This is the most interesting leadership election of either party on Capitol Hill in probably 20 years. It’s hard to understate just how big of a deal this is because whoever gets this job, it’s going to be the culmination of their career most likely.