Welcome. I just remembered this topic has come up a lot, so better not restart the discussion from scratch. It's a great topic of discussion though, so it's good it comes up once in a while.
I like the education system in most countries I've lived in, so I am biased against homeschooling. But I don't have US experience, and that's where this topic comes up most, so it's interesting to read about people's motivations to pursue homeschooling.
I hope @Shugard will share his own thoughts on the topic. Posting controversial topics just for the sake of getting other people to talk about it does not brush me in the best way :)
Only if the parents have a strong social network and are able to provide their child with the socialisation opportunities that he needs.
I’m a teacher in the pri sch system. I think my educational system is not without its flaws but for a child, nothing beats forming close relationships with people around his age and having fun
Once I met a guy from the US at a week long conference on a Greek island, a wonderful place. He brought his two homeschooled kids with him. How cool was that! The kids could learn about Greek history right there, seeing the places and having that experience. The downside was that they spent most of their daytime in a hotel room. Would I take my kids? Idk.
(Also I am getting tired of this anti-🏳️🌈 bullshits. Is that what the guy’s message is about? Homeschool kids, otherwise 🏳️🌈? 🥱😡)
not sure where you guys are at or what you say, but no -- I'm definitely not there yet. The shit is so all-encompassing and constantly celebrated/shoved in our face that I'm still very much on the anti-train
I am catching the anti-anti-train 🤣 My impression is that anti-train-ists are super loud these days, a way louder than train-ists. The other side has its pride, there is some noise weak before and after, otherwise I don’t hear much from them.
Also I am getting tired of this anti-🏳️🌈 bullshits. Is that what the guy’s message is about? Homeschool kids, otherwise 🏳️🌈?
To me, anti-wokism is as tiring as wokism...
Similar to how I stopped enjoying listening to Richard Dawkins... in being so anti-religious, he's become as dogmatic as some religious people. I say that as an atheist.
True. A lot depends on the parent's ability and time at making sure the kid gets the good material (including material that goes against the parent's belief system, so the kid gets to enjoy all kinds of takes) and the proper social interactions. As much as I believe some parents are up to this task (I'm not~~), I also believe some old-school teachers are also up to this task. One has to decide based on what schooling system is available to them and based on one's own ability to provide what said schooling system is not able to provide. For now, I'm pretty amazed at what my kid gets to experience in school in Korea, things that neither my wife nor I would be able to give him.
I hear the critical thinking argument a lot. And I do not find it convincing.
You say that it is the responsibility of parents to provide "the other side of the coin" as well.
Things that go against their belief system.
Being a teacher in Germany, I can tell you that 32 of our 35 teachers only teach what they belive or what the overlord school system tells them to teach.
There is absolutely no critical thinking involved in what they teach for over 90% of the teachers.
So if 90% of the parents are wrong, I can assure you that 90% of the teachers are also wrong.
if a child goes to school at home it is the same as studying at home, but it is felt to be less effective, if a child is educated at home the impact is that the child's mindset is less developed, because the child needs friends, who can get to know his friends to play and learn, my suggestion is that it is better for a child given just a little freedom, so that children gain broad insight.
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Welcome. I just remembered this topic has come up a lot, so better not restart the discussion from scratch. It's a great topic of discussion though, so it's good it comes up once in a while.
I like the education system in most countries I've lived in, so I am biased against homeschooling. But I don't have US experience, and that's where this topic comes up most, so it's interesting to read about people's motivations to pursue homeschooling.
I hope @Shugard will share his own thoughts on the topic. Posting controversial topics just for the sake of getting other people to talk about it does not brush me in the best way :)
You will get a long answer after my trip.
Sorry, my last sentence sounds a bit snappy reading myself again. Feel free to shine in or not after your trip, all good. Cheers
Thanks for the links you provided.
at least kid is puking
Indeed!
Only if the parents have a strong social network and are able to provide their child with the socialisation opportunities that he needs.
I’m a teacher in the pri sch system. I think my educational system is not without its flaws but for a child, nothing beats forming close relationships with people around his age and having fun
I'm glad opportunities for it have expanded in the last couple of years.
Yes, it's great to have the choice.
Freedom of choice is the most desirable! Everyone should decide what he wants to do or not do!
I personally do not believe and do not trust in traditional education. As I was educated, I try to do a better job at home with my daughter.
"In the end, no one will take care of our things as we would take care of ourselves"
Once I met a guy from the US at a week long conference on a Greek island, a wonderful place. He brought his two homeschooled kids with him. How cool was that! The kids could learn about Greek history right there, seeing the places and having that experience. The downside was that they spent most of their daytime in a hotel room. Would I take my kids? Idk.
(Also I am getting tired of this anti-🏳️🌈 bullshits. Is that what the guy’s message is about? Homeschool kids, otherwise 🏳️🌈? 🥱😡)
not sure where you guys are at or what you say, but no -- I'm definitely not there yet. The shit is so all-encompassing and constantly celebrated/shoved in our face that I'm still very much on the anti-train
I am catching the anti-anti-train 🤣 My impression is that anti-train-ists are super loud these days, a way louder than train-ists. The other side has its pride, there is some noise weak before and after, otherwise I don’t hear much from them.
To me, anti-wokism is as tiring as wokism...
Similar to how I stopped enjoying listening to Richard Dawkins... in being so anti-religious, he's become as dogmatic as some religious people. I say that as an atheist.
It's great if one of the parents has the time, energy, and personality for it.
True. A lot depends on the parent's ability and time at making sure the kid gets the good material (including material that goes against the parent's belief system, so the kid gets to enjoy all kinds of takes) and the proper social interactions. As much as I believe some parents are up to this task (I'm not~~), I also believe some old-school teachers are also up to this task. One has to decide based on what schooling system is available to them and based on one's own ability to provide what said schooling system is not able to provide. For now, I'm pretty amazed at what my kid gets to experience in school in Korea, things that neither my wife nor I would be able to give him.
I hear the critical thinking argument a lot. And I do not find it convincing. You say that it is the responsibility of parents to provide "the other side of the coin" as well. Things that go against their belief system.
Being a teacher in Germany, I can tell you that 32 of our 35 teachers only teach what they belive or what the overlord school system tells them to teach.
There is absolutely no critical thinking involved in what they teach for over 90% of the teachers.
So if 90% of the parents are wrong, I can assure you that 90% of the teachers are also wrong.
Oh i fully agree that the same standards should also apply to traditional teachers...
What's the difference between homeschooling and self-learning?
We're going to give it a go. I'm not concerned about "socialization", but am a little about competition.
I want my kids to find what they're good at and pursue it
a must in today's society with our flawed indoctrination system. praying that improves with a 47 presidency however
This is true
if a child goes to school at home it is the same as studying at home, but it is felt to be less effective, if a child is educated at home the impact is that the child's mindset is less developed, because the child needs friends, who can get to know his friends to play and learn, my suggestion is that it is better for a child given just a little freedom, so that children gain broad insight.
That's true!
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Amen!