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Oh well, what a tragedy.
Good if they solve their shit; good if would have stayed shut.
Technically Congress missed the midnight deadline to head off the shutdown, but not by enough to cause disruption. The federal government had ceased preparing for a shutdown before the Senate voted and no agencies halted operations, the White House said.
The bill that passed did not include any change to the debt ceiling, despite president-elect Donald Trump’s call for lawmakers to use the legislation to scrap the mechanism, which limits the federal government’s borrowing.
Pathetic drama every time
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30 sats \ 2 replies \ @kepford 15h
Pathetic drama every time
The public is largely dumb but the media and politicians know exactly what is going on. Such a joke.
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shrug
It seems to play out the same way every time. I'm not sure why anyone thought a shutdown would actually have happened.
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The longest goverment shutdown in US history happened only 6 years ago. It can happen again, that's why.
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20 sats \ 0 replies \ @Satosora 18h
Maybe we wont be seeing shutdowns for the next 4 years if Trump is able to organize everything correctly.
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10 sats \ 3 replies \ @Shugard 17h
Would have been so much fun if Trump had gotten his way and there had been no bailout.
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I would have preferred a government shutdown until the inauguration. Let the new administration handle the clean-up, the firings and the forced resignations. They are going to do it anyway if they produce on their promises. They could have had a head start that way.
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20 sats \ 1 reply \ @Shugard 14h
I would have preferred a government shutdown until the inauguration.
That would have been fun! A broken government for over a month.
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Yes, the bellyaching would have been non-stop and at the top of THEIR voices.
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10 sats \ 1 reply \ @OT 14h
Doesn't this happen every 6 months of so?
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Typ, pretty much.
Wikipedia said 76 times since 1961 for a neat 1.25 a year
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10 sats \ 5 replies \ @oklar 17h
I don't really understand the premise of these shutdowns. Is this US tradition or a new thing?
The horror.. The horror!
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It's a function of the structure of the US govt. Both parties do it pretty regularly, though the R party has been responsible for most of them in the past decade. It's kind of an "instant win" button a party can press to get legislation passed that ordinarily would have no other chance to get passed.
In order for the government to get funded, the funding bill has to pass the senate, house, and president, any one of those parties refusing to pass the bill can cause a shutdown. Trump, for example, used this power while president to try to force the addition of a border wall to the budget, but the democrats who controlled the senate refused to fund it. (At this point, senate and house had both passed a funding bill, it was the president's veto that caused the shutdown). Given that democrats controlled the senate, there was basically zero chance of this getting funded at any other time, as the funding bill would have to pass house + senate + get a presidential signature, so this was the point where Trump had the most leverage to get it done.
Other governmental systems have ways of dealing with this problem, all with their pros and cons. For example, in some representative democracies, if the legislature can't pass a budget within x days, the legislature is dissolved and snap elections are held. But this strategy only works if the legislative makeup changes as a result of the election which is no guarantee.
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12 sats \ 2 replies \ @oklar 16h
Ah, I think I was missing a piece of the puzzle of why it occurs, thanks.
I was thinking why is it not possible to do a PR/merge and get all the state departments to update their codebase without a shutdown.
So, it's feature specific to the presidential system, not a bug?
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I miscalculated! 76 times in 63 years is of course MORE than once a year.
Thank god I don't teach maths @Shugard
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @Shugard 4h
It was Sunday, so you are excused for bad math xD
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