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There was a time, before 1913, when you could keep every penny you earned. You did not have to file with the federal government, telling them what you earned and giving the feds their cut. Your finances were your business and no one else’s. You had the right to earn, own, and keep property, and it was sacrosanct, guaranteed by U.S. law and tradition.
There were no audits, investigations, account freezes, withholdings, or any other forms of payment. There was your productivity and you and that’s all.
How was the government funded? It earned revenue through tariffs. These are paid directly by importers and indirectly by producers and consumers if the costs can be passed through. As strategies for gaining revenue, this approach is relatively noninvasive. It left the population alone.
Back in those days, however, the federal government barely existed as compared with today. More precisely, in real terms, the federal government in 1885 spent in inflation-adjusted dollars about 0.05 percent of what it spends today. Even then, people believed that it was too big and wanted it cut back to size.
Donald Trump has recently been schooling people in the history of revenue strategies and he is teaching something that people have not known. He has explained how this period of American history saw the greatest amount of economic growth we’ve ever seen. He is correct about that and he is also correct that this was the period of the tariff.
OK, this is the way to go: get rid of the income tax. In fact, nullify the all of the amendments made during 1913 to make America free again. Make the Senate responsive to the states, as it was supposed to be. Let us own our property, once again, without prior liens by the government. Radical, yes but it is required for freedom.
The real horror of the income tax, can be explained by simply listing the original brackets (note: all values are in 1913 dollars)
1% on income above $4000 2% on income between $20,000 and $50,000 3% on income between $50,000 and $75,000 4% on income between $75,000 and $100,000 5% on income between $100,000 and $250,000 6% on income between $250,000 and $500,000 7% on income above $500,000
($4000 in 1913 was about $125,000 in todays money) ($20,000 was about $650,000 in todays money)
Only 3% of population was subject to the tax, and those that were 98% paid about 3% of their income. The highest possible tax rate was 7%
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Look how quickly it jumped to 67 in 1917
from Brave ai...
Income Tax Rate History
The history of income tax rates in the United States has seen significant fluctuations over the years, influenced by various economic and political factors. Here is a summary of the changes in the top marginal income tax rates:
  • 1913-1915: The top rate was 7%, with a regular rate of 1% and a surtax of 6%.
  • 1916: The top rate increased to 15%, with a regular rate of 2% and a surtax of 13%.
  • 1917: The top rate jumped to 67%, with a regular rate of 4% and a surtax of 63%.
  • 1918-1921: The top rate was 73%, with a regular rate of 8% and a surtax of 65%.
  • 1922-1923: The top rate was adjusted to 58%, with a regular rate of 8% and a surtax of 50%.
  • 1924: The top rate was 46%, with a regular rate of 6% and a surtax of 40%.
  • 1925-1931: The top rate was 25%, with a regular rate of 5% and a surtax of 20%.
  • 1932-1933: The top rate increased to 63%, with a regular rate of 8% and a surtax of 55%.
  • 1934-1935: The top rate was 63%, with a regular rate of 4% and a surtax of 59%.
  • 1936-1940: The top rate was 79%, with a regular rate of 4% and a surtax of 75%.
  • 1941: The top rate was 81%, with a regular rate of 4% and a surtax of 77%.
  • 1942-1943: The top rate was 88%, with a regular rate of 6% and a surtax of 82%.
  • 1944: The top rate peaked at 94%, with a regular rate of 3% and a surtax of 91%.
  • 1945-1963: The top rate was 91%, with a regular rate of 3% and a surtax of 88%.
  • 1964: The top rate was reduced to 77%, with a regular rate of 3% and a surtax of 74%.
  • 1965-1981: The top rate was 70%, with no surtax.
  • 1982-1986: The top rate was 50%, with no surtax.
  • 1987: The top rate was 38.5%, with no surtax.
  • 1988-1990: The top rate was 33%, with no surtax.
  • 1991-1992: The top rate was 31%, with no surtax.
  • 1993-2000: The top rate was 39.6%, with no surtax.
  • 2001: The top rate was 39.1%, with no surtax.
  • 2002: The top rate was 38.6%, with no surtax.
  • 2003-2012: The top rate was 35%, with no surtax.
  • 2013-2017: The top rate was 39.6%, with no surtax.
  • 2018-2022: The top rate was 37%, with no surtax.
As of 2024 and 2025, the highest marginal tax rate is 37%. However, if the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017 is not extended, the top federal income tax bracket is set to rise to 39.6% in 2026.
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19 sats \ 2 replies \ @freetx 1 Feb
The top rate peaked at 94%
Haha...why bother.
The truth is in those days all high earners were on "deferred compensation" and "stock option" schemes to reduce taxes.
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There were plenty of dodges in the tax code for the wealthy. They didn't pay all that money, at all. They paid the politicians to set that up for them.
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absolutely, anything to minimize your tax liability
that's the problem with Congress and CBO, they think no one will hire lawyers and accountants to create tax shelters etc
update: one of the enduring effects of Carter and Reagan is highest bracket will never hit 40%, not even Obama and Biden had the nerve go there but we know they did
Brave ai made an error about 1986. The top bracket was cut to 28%.
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It jumped so they could do WWI. You know, the war to end all wars. They had to take the money from someone, didn't they. So, they took it from the slaves citizens.
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Lincoln imposed temporary income tax during the Civil War
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He had to steal the money for the war somehow!! That was also when gold was money.
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Civil war green backs
I don't know what all the legislators were thinking when they voted for the amendments. Oh, yeah, It was all done fraudulently, from the legislatures approving the amendments to the count of states that actually approved the amendments. All was fraud.
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I thought passing an amendment was supposed to be hard
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Only when you do it honestly. If you do it fraudulently it is much easier. They just fly through bribed legislatures.
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Trump doesn't have to eliminate income tax to make people happy.
Drop the highest bracket to 25 and he will be more popular than Reagan
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Didn't he do that before?
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Reagan did 28 in 1986
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37 not 25
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10 sats \ 1 reply \ @godlikeXi 11h
Nothing good will come of this. The least of us will suffer and no one give a flying fuck. It's expensive to be poor in America. It's the intentionality of it all that is sicking.
8 months paid salary sounds good except COBRA is expensive and healthcare is hyper expensive here. Godspeed America. You chose this fucking orange micro-dik smol peen vengeful idiot.
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Why will the least of us suffer from the dismantling of the bureaucracy? We have to pay for that from the least of our folks money. Let the bureaucrats find non-tax eater work for a change and relieve us of the burden of parasitism. Perhaps the least of us will finally get a break, for a change.
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20 sats \ 1 reply \ @0xIlmari 23h
$36T of public debt. This number cannot just go away, you need to do something about it. And just about the only things that you can do are:
  • Default on it.
  • Pay it back.
  • Devalue the unit to a point where it doesn't matter.
A formal default with cancellation is not going to happen.
To pay back debt you need to be profitable. This means austerity measures if you still raise funds through taxation. And austerity to pay down debt is doubly unpopular because it's not buying the people anything directly useful, like healthcare.
So you have to ask the question: Can you be more profitable with tariffs than with income tax? What do tariffs do? Dampen imports and stimulate domestic production. So it causes further income from tariffs to reduce but since we got rid of income tax, the Treasury is no longer benefiting from a boosted economy.
So I think not, my guess is the number don't add up and to actually burn down the debt you will need a period of both taxation and tariffs.
And then there's of course the way of inflation. Print enough money and $36T might actually go down in purchasing value, making it easier to pay down. I expect to see that in the mix as well.
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I don’t know, but hasn’t Trump been through many bankrupcies for different sub-organizations in his career? He knows the power of bankrupting and shedding debt because he did it regularly. Maybe this is one reason he was chosen to be the candidate the first time.
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