"If you want to understand the world, consider it in terms of energy, frequency and vibration." -- Nikola Tesla
In my life, this is how I've come to understand truth. It's like a frequency that you can tune into. Once you're tuned into the right channel, you get the stream of information that leads to prosperity.
Ultimately, that's what I believe accordance to truth should reap: positive fruits. Life.
But if the channel you're tuned to is reaping strife, or rotten fruit, how are we first 1) to identify the fault in our signal, and also 2) flip on the right channel? Because for many people, perhaps ourselves in other ways: Falsehood can sound good. Maybe even for a lifetime, if we're not careful.
As bitcoiners, and for Tesla too, I think we all share this common experience. We're listening to the same radio, so to speak. And the contents of its message help us see the world more clearly, and thus navigate it more effectively.
But the question that remains: How did we find the right signal in the first place? Did we simply turn the knob just right and get lucky? Acquire enough experience with rotten fruit to understand how it tastes, and therefore be able to identify good fruit? What was it that set us on the right path to begin with?
From what I can tell, the first step of truth identification requires us to be able to step outside of ourselves. That's easier than some than it is for others.
If you were a coach, and had to train truth identification like a skill, what advice would you give?
This isn't exactly an answer to your question, but I think a helpful habit is to not immediately dismiss alternative ideas. Try them out a bit and see if they fit with things you already "know to be true" and if they help explain anything else. If they survive that, reflect on why you wanted to dismiss the idea in the first place.
Ultimately, I think of "finding truth" as being a process of ironing out our own misconceptions. Everything should fit together and withstand scrutiny.
There is no objective truth just aggregated subjective truths where we throw away the details to call something objective
that’s an objective truth claim though
how would you feel about objective reality, for example, if somebody offered to smash your face against a wall? would you, or anyone else, still deny there is no objective truth?
just because we all subjectively agree doesn't make it true for instance the non simultaneity of events for observers
if you wanna argue from a highly theoretical standpoint that there's no objective reality feel free to continue with the mental gymnastics. from a practical perspective there's going be a 100% agreement amongst all who receive an offer of a solid smash in the face against a wall. so what difference does it actually make?
There is no objective truth. Think about it. Can 'truth' even exist without language? (or even without lower level thing - communication?) No. So at least there is a relativistic part connected to living beings communicating with each other.
About the fruit examples - that would be utilitarian truth. It's something, but still not objective truth.
Imho closest to the objective truths are mathematical truths.
i think the first step is to learn the difference between rights and wrongs. that what is right, does no wrong. the real 7 deadly sins, or wrongs, are:
once the diseased mind heals itself thru recognition of this fundamental lesson, then it can start telling the truths from lies more easily.
now, if the mind is so diseased that it cannot grasp this lesson, then the owner of the mind has to start purifying the air, water, food, and light sources that he puts into his body and brain, until he CAN.
I agree with you
Truth is, Falsehood often sound good and people prefer it more. Getting to figure out the truth off a situation you gotta to know the facts and follow a correct line of reasoning. Applying true argument principles, cos the storyline may sound good but not true if it defiles the principles of logic
It is sad how many aren't aware of basic debate + logic principles. Thankfully I grew up naturally interested in this stuff, have listened to more debates than I can count, but I can see how it's a drag if you don't learn it through schooling or family
Going out on a limb here based on the comments. I hold the belief that there is a universal objective truth. How close we get to that is a deviation from our understanding of objective truth but moral relativists drive me mad. Similar to the post talking about cardinal sins, everything can be reduced to objectively good or bad, true or untrue. The more gray your interpretation or action, the more likely it is to be objectively untrue or bad. Not saying there aren’t exceptions, but usually those gray areas are preceded themselves by prior infractions or deviations from goodness or truth that necessitate the ambiguity.
Not sure I presented that well, but I just came to fight back the George RR Martin types.
I’ll take my reality black and white Tolkien, thank you very much.
I asked the philosopher's AI bot, and got this answer:
Identifying objective truth involves several key principles:
In summary, identifying objective truth involves a commitment to reason, evidence, and a structured approach to discourse that prioritizes universal standards over subjective assertions.
For further exploration of these concepts, you might find it helpful to look into my discussions on objective truth in my podcasts or articles.
logic is a tool by which to process information; the classical trivium (3-way method) is a sequence of
grammar -> logic -> rhetoric or input -> processing -> output
now, if all the inputs are bad, one has only one option: discard every input (filtering is a substep of logic); however, how does one know that something is bad in the first place? there is that quote in the bible: know the truth and the truth shall set u free;
so, u either know that something is bad, or u ask ShatGPT that was created by the [manipulators[(#1266468) of human language; don't use AI to implant new thots into ur brain;
To some, truth can taste bitter and foul, like a rotten fruit...
Few things that are worth doing in life are easy. The accumulation of material wealth as a primary goal is usually a folly.