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35 sats \ 1 reply \ @028559d218 12h \ parent \ on: Will you be happy if Bitcoin rises upon the decline of the USD? bitcoin
if citizens want to use it for moe and use it privately... they can. that is the important thing.
yes nation states. but no not El Salvador, the united states. The united states adopting bitcoin as an alternative to the dying dollar (which is dying, slowly of course but it is)
Bitcoin is only 16 years old. it is not even an adult yet and can barely drive a car
Bitcoin is not used hardly at all as a means of exchange- it is either outright banned, or slyly obstructed to the point of being effectively banned as it is in the 'liberal' western democracies via tax obligations requiring absurd and practically impossible transactions recording and assessment for all BTC MoE use.
Fries go crunch.
For the vast majority of nation states Bitcoin adoption (for MoE) takes away far more from the government than it adds.
The bond market would beg to differ.
I am of course taking a critical and you might say pessimist view, but it does seem to be the trend as the almost complete lack of adoption for MoE anywhere, even in El Salvador suggests people will not choose monetary liberty even when a government allows it and Bitcoin offers that option.
I, personally, would prefer my money to die more slowly (to inflation) than more quickly. That's why I choose Bitcoin. Simple right?
I hope MoE adoption can and will happen, but fear not enough people want to be free. We shall see!
Like I said, fries go crunch! ;) We shall see :)
If the collapse of the USD causes Bitcoin to rise in value will Libertarians be happy?
i don't think the dollar will collapse. just be less valuable
Even if the fall of the dollar results in a very different world where it is most likely China has much more influence and power where trade and finance and international protocols and law are increasingly dominated by China.
china doesn't dominate any of these things today. maybe trade ok... but the rest no. they are catching up for sure but they are not there yet.
Because the Bitcoin ecosystem is not even comparable to the Chinese economy.
it's not comparable to any economy. bitcoin is a relative baby at ~ 16 years old.
The Bitcoin economy is almost exclusively that of a speculative asset- Bitcoin is not in reality a MoE with any depth or broad adoption.
not it's not today. but it could be in the future. i bought fries with lightning and it worked just fine.
All Bitcoin and 'crypto' would be in the event of the collapse of US hegemony, is primarily vehicles for wealth preservation outside of an increasingly Chinese dominated global economy.
i still think bitcoin has a shot to be the global, digital neutral settlement layer. not because it's perfect... but because there really aren't any neutral competitors
my thoughts
Owning any non-proof-of-work cryptocurrency is a 'threat model' in itself.
And any other PoW crypto has to compete with Bitcoin. Which it can't.
Bitcoin-only or it's a waste of time. EVM/Solana people in their 'browsers' are morons.
People on Stacker News have no interest in MetaMask, Rabby, Phantom etc...
This is a Bitcoin-only space.
Maybe try r/Cryptocurrency instead?
It's just a QR code at SnS. If you can pay on Stacker... you can pay the QR code.
Lightning is actually really easy to use non-custodially. Either buy a Lightning channel, get a 'just in time' channel or run your own full Lightning node...
It's basically plug and play
Not bad. Maybe not a 5 guys or in-and-out burger kind of place (but those are more expensive) but for a cheap burger and fries it was fine. And paying with sats is the whole idea anyway.
That's what it showed on the receipt!!! The sats/dollar exchange rate which of course is mind-blowing
It's awesome dude. Paying from your own Lightning node for fries in Suburban America... it's the holy land.
It's called "speed1" and interesting enough that's what it said on the receipt too. Tryspeed. Must be a commercial LSP?
Dude that's how it felt... it hard to explain to someone who hasn't been playing around with lightning for a few years.
But yes the Steak n Shake Payment 'terminal' feels like a "Mecca" in the desert - like a 'real' place to use Sats it was cool. Like the Holy Land