No you need a cloud agent obviously. Read it openark.tech

that would be hilarious if true

openark doesn't require any protocol changes, nobody's forcing you to run it

be mad somewhere else

hey retard, who said i'm against lightning

I agree that leasing from randoms is not viable.

however, it's not likely that mass onboarding to bitcoin will be thanks to existing wallets growing, it will be existing payment service providers (with billions of users) adding lightning support

and they will do that by acquiring liquidity from other businesses running routing nodes, not random individual node runners, because they can't rely on a single individual for their topology and capacity

they'll also run ark servers, and will likely need external bitcoin-rich businesses provide the liqudity needed for those servers.

you obviously haven't read it.

also the only ways to reliably make money in bitcoin will be through selling channels (liquidity leasing) and ark server liquidity provisioning. routing fees is not a reliable business model and we all understand that.

anyhow, i digress.

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what exactly is the scam here? would love to hear it.

you're just spewing bs

arpanet had the protocol first, then isps built the rails because there was money in it.

lightning is no different. if there’s no yield incentive to deploy liquidity, most bitcoiners will just hold and not run infrastructure. most bitcoiners just hodl. we've seen this.

If you fail to understand this ,you are an actual communist and a threat to bitcoin

and by your logic you should be lobbying for everyone to run their own isp, yet here you are paying one, probably a megacorp. kinda proves the point.

Quality commenting right here. Read the protocol and come with actual feedback, otherwise be gone.

I advise you to try and find any shitcoining related to me. Best of luck.

there is protocol and there is economic reality and reality of incentives

lol that's a first

if you took your time to study openark intead of resorting to some old post of yours, you'd get it.

but since you haven't read it, you wont understand how it differs from the existing Ark implementations.

openark is not a VC backed project

but still, you're wrong regarding lightning scaling infinitely. maybe it does in your perfect fantasy world where you magically solve the liquidity problem... with.. idk.. vibes..?

Sir, you are retarded

" Lightning already scales transactions infinitely. "

This is incorrect

i get your point.

but you’re missing mine.

i do believe lightning (or bitcoin L2) can’t scale without some hub-and-spoke structure.

you can’t have traffic without traffic lights.

you need entities that orchestrate liquidity and routing.

this is also mathematically supported by network topology.

regular bitcoiners aren’t economically incentivized to deploy liquidity on lightning. treasury companies are, because they need that 2-4% yield.

a normal bitcoiner is fine with number-go-up. they don’t need yield, so they don’t deploy capital on lightning.

what i’m saying is: yes, bitcoin itself doesn’t need businesses to succeed. but lightning absolutely does. not understanding that is just cope