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EU's launching its own DNS, and people are worried it'll break up the internetwww.joindns4.eu
555 sats \ 18 comments \ @jakoyoh629 17h security
What does this actually mean for us normal people, if anyone knows?

What is DNS4EU?

DNS4EU is an initiative by the European Commission that aims to offer an alternative to the public DNS resolvers currently dominating the market.
Supported by the European Union Agency for Cybersecurity (ENISA), the European Union's DNS4EU secure-infrastructure project provides a protective, privacy-compliant, and resilient DNS service to strengthen the EU’s digital sovereignty and enhance digital security for European Union citizens, governments, and institutions.
The program provides robust DNS security for public institutions and their employees, ministries, local governments or municipalities, healthcare, education, and other critical services such as telecommunications providers. By working with the latter, for example, it ensures DNS resolution service for all of a telco’s customers, with minimum manual overhead for their teams.
Additionally, the DNS4EU solutions aid organizations in complying with regulatory requirements (such as GDPR) to keep data within European borders.
As these organizations often face challenges to independently developing and maintaining high-level cybersecurity measures (such as election cycles or funding), the DNS4EU project solves these challenges by providing a Europe-based, centralized, scalable solution to ensure the highest standards of security and privacy, compliant with EU regulations.
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91 sats \ 0 replies \ @rblb 15h
Maybe if they force the monkeys working in public administrations to use a centralized dns, they'll stop downloading the ransomware that they like so much.
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223 sats \ 4 replies \ @k00b 15h
why would this break up the internet?
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @jakoyoh629 OP 15h
In the context of segregation, restrictions, or even censorship.
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54 sats \ 1 reply \ @optimism 15h
It won't break it up more than what is being done for years now outside of the West.
The nice thing about this is that we will get to query another view of the internet to compare, track, report, call out and, if it gets consistently bad, circumvent. NetBlocks (Bird App) got even more relevant now - isn't it great that we have community watchdog initiatives like that?
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @optimism 14h
Bad link, sry: NetBlocks
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @kilianbuhn 11h
it wouldn't. just run your own dns. Just like all conpanies do
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33 sats \ 0 replies \ @sox 14h
I mean not that using privately owned DNS servers is that better lol
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105 sats \ 5 replies \ @ek 17h
What does this actually mean for us normal people, if anyone knows?
You can now use an European DNS resolver if you care about that
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0 sats \ 4 replies \ @jakoyoh629 OP 17h
What really caught my eye was that it's a platform funded by the European Commission. As long as it's optional, I don't see huge issues, but I've got a bad feeling about it if they make it mandatory in the future. Could this be used as a filter for pages? Am I overthinking this? Or is it a real possibility?
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90 sats \ 3 replies \ @ek 17h
Yes, DNS resolvers can filter pages but as long as you have full control over your own machine, you can always tell it to use a different resolver
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @jakoyoh629 OP 15h
Does that happen even if the filter's at the ISP level?
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56 sats \ 1 reply \ @rblb 15h
if you can filter the dns at isp level you can filter the traffic too, so won't change anything.
The only way i can see enforcing a dns, is demanding OS developers to remove the option to change the dns in their OSes if they want to sell in the EU, so won't affect linux, but everything else
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75 sats \ 0 replies \ @rblb 14h
But i see this as unlikely, because the next step is someone ddosing the eu central dns and taking down internet for all new OSes and devices.
I think this is just an effort to have a fallback that doesn't rely on the suspicious generosity of google and cloudflare, or to some 2000-era server sitting in an humid basement of an ISP that reboots every 12 minutes.
Remember that EU takes a lot of money from the european states, they need sometimes to make things that look good, or people will start asking what they are there for (spoiler: nothing).
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @justin_shocknet 15h
Does feel like a splinternet is inevitable, China's great firewall is just a toe in the water...
Any state wishing to maintain autonomy without bending the knee to a hegemonic AI/Data/NSA singularity will effectively have to do what North Korea did with legacy comms and economic integration
It stands to reason that Europe's legacy banking plutocracy, servile population, non-existent technology industry will have to go through a stage resembling it being the next North Korea. The difference is some member states peel off and "Europe" as it is known today shrivels down to just a few countries.
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21 sats \ 1 reply \ @LibertasBR 15h
Great Chinese firewall style?
I don’t have the technical knowledge to understand how this will affect internet usage, but even so, it seems like something extremely bad to me, simply because it’s regulation — and even worse, coming from the European Union.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @jakoyoh629 OP 15h
Right now, it's totally fine, actually a good thing. But you never know, this could be the start of it.
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5 sats \ 0 replies \ @javier 17h
At the beginning it will be optional, then after a while mandatory, and finally they will censorship like hell.
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5 sats \ 0 replies \ @duuv 17h
Probably next year every company in the EU will have to use their DNS servers. Perfect for filtering and surveillance.
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