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The enrichment of nuclear material — and, now we can say it outright, the future production of nuclear weapons — will continue.

I cant help thinking perhaps this wouldn't have happened had the western (Isreal's) propaganda machine had been more honest about Iran's nuclear capabilities. The thirty years delusion that Netanyahu has been peddling has been counter productive, to say the least. There's two main reasons.

First, trying to neuter a sovereign nation's enrichment of uranium during an era when nuclear power is clearly going to be a trump card vis a vis Ai, is most certainly a strategic move, not least because of the country's geographic position being a passage to Eastern markets. A sane person will realize this as the incentive and will consequently have to understand Iran won't give it up easily.

Secondly, if the Cold War era taught us anything, it is that M.A.D. is arguably the strongest incentive for global peace.

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I cant help thinking perhaps this wouldn't have happened had the western (Isreal's) propaganda machine had been more honest about Iran's nuclear capabilities.

The words will continue sound to me like a carefully chose taunt, not sure if it is true or false, only that we can count on Medvedev trying to play 5D chess - not sure how good he is at that. But yes, if you're already found guilty of something without doing it and feeling the consequences, you might as well do it and actually be guilty. Then at least you'll also have the "pleasures" you're being punished for, not just the punishment.

That said, let's not pretend that the Iranian regime is proliferating peace and prosperity for the whole universe. They may have decided to develop the arms many years ago. We don't know when, and we'll probably never know the truth, simply because of the endless lies. This is why the enemy of the commoner isn't a particular state, it's all states.

if the Cold War era taught us anything, it is that M.A.D. is arguably the strongest incentive for global peace.

Is this what global peace looks like though? Growing up (in a nuclear armed country) during the Cold War, I've always felt that deterrence only worked on the homelands of nuclearly armed countries, and that the reason it worked was because the war hawks had non-nuclear playgrounds - Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, to name a few, to lay waste to lives on. If there would have been total multilateral assured destruction, then the pessimist in me expects there to be actual nuclear wars and M.A.D. be damned. As long as people willfully subject themselves to leaders with war powers, there will be wars.

I also wonder if every regime would be capable of the restraint needed for not using their nuclear arms. I don't want to find out, tbh.