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The Man Who Said Enlightenment Was Horseshit: U.G. Krishnamurti www.learningproducers.com/blog/the-man-who-said-enlightenment-was-horseshit-ug-krishnamurti

260 sats \ 6 comments \ @k00b 23 Jun ideasfromtheedge

Ironically, at one time U.G. spent years chasing enlightenment with no success until one day in his late forties he experienced what he called a “calamity”. Not some romanticized Kundalini high. Rather, a painful experience that changed him to his core. Afterward, he described his new state:

There is no center here... the chemistry has changed... there is no continuity of thought... the way the senses are operating now without any coordinator or center.

Despite accepting invitations to give lectures and host talks, he maintained that the brain was essentially a computer and nothing else. Our physical form, simply a machine. Consciousness? Only an interface, a dashboard. He also said there was no purpose to life, explaining the only thing the human body cared about was “surviving and fucking”.

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60 sats \ 2 replies \ @freetx 23 Jun

Only an interface, a dashboard. He also said there was no purpose to life, explaining the only thing the human body cared about was “surviving and fucking”.

Yes that must be conclusion of any materialist atheist.

If there is no "cause" for things, other than material interaction, then its all pointless. Even the realization that its pointless, is itself pointless.

A snake eating its own tail, all meaning collapses in on itself and existence it utterly pointless.

I have been nurturing a theory lately that the biggest psyop is that atheism doesn't exist. I don't believe that there are any actual believers in it. I find the idea sorta funny, that the New Atheist routinely derided believers with the "invisible man in the sky" insult, but it is they themselves LARP as non-believers, but secretly believe.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b OP 23 Jun

Yes that must be conclusion of any materialist atheist.

I'm not too familiar with his teachings (or lack of them), but it sounds like he was, which is not very typical for eastern mystics afaik.

it is they themselves LARP as non-believers, but secretly believe.

ime it's hard to avoid unconsciously believing. I think humans tend to agent-ize everything - even the source of life's mysteries and whether we want to or not.

48 sats \ 0 replies \ @freetx 23 Jun

but it sounds like he was, which is not very typical for eastern mystics afaik.

Yes, I've read him before, long time ago. I think the book or essay was called something like "your mind is the enemy" and it was interesting. From what I remember he was basically advocating against thinking, he advocated living in the moment as much as possible pretty much as animals do.

10 sats \ 2 replies \ @SwapMarket 23 Jun

Sounds a lot like Alan Watts. The Universe is a funny process with no purpose. Then he drank himself to death. I agree.

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @k00b OP 23 Jun

hopefully you're not drinking yourself to death tho

38 sats \ 0 replies \ @SwapMarket 23h

Nope, don't drink at all. And if you read about Zen masters, they often shocked their students with absurd words or impossible tasks. So Krishnamurti was not original there. Also, I recall reading about one awakened monk who, when asked how he lives, said "when I'm hungry, I eat, when I'm tired, I sleep". Same as U.G.'s “living organism, nothing else”. I guess unplugging from the matrix of social conditioning is what enlightenment is. Stop being what others programmed you to be, just live free. Everything is just a show.