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159 sats \ 5 replies \ @fiatbad 30 Jun \ parent \ on: My friends think Bitcoin is a joke. There's nowhere to spend it or Lightning. bitcoin
Cory Klippsten said something on a podcast a few years back that always stuck with me. Something about how historical revolutions only needed 10% of the population onboard in order to enact complete societal change.
So, I disagree when you say ideological adoption is only gonna get us so far. I think idealogical adoption can take us all the way. The problem is, most Bitcoiners are still too comfortable using and thinking in fiat terms, while using Bitcoin only as an investment vehicle. And I'm not talking about the short-term traders using Coinbase. I'm talking "hard-core" Bitcoiners who have read all the books and really understand the stakes. They aren't pushing very hard to end fiat. They keep talking about Trojan horses and Gresham's law... while comfortably using fiat.
There are enough of us to change the world today if we organized and focused on our ideals instead of them being only a side story in our lives.
They aren't pushing very hard to end fiat. They keep talking about Trojan horses and Gresham's law... while comfortably using fiat.
It's really hard to go go off fiat. I pay my bills in fiat and save/use Bitcoin where I can. But I really have to go out of my way (to use it) and 'normies' have no idea what I'm talking about
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Fair point. Many religions back you up. Christianity and Islam and Hinduism have remade the world. If we want to pursue Bitcoin adoption in the same manner as religions, perhaps we will similarly succeed.
I'd prefer to pursue adoption along the lines of technical innovations like automobiles, the internet, and smart phones. People didn't need to promote these things for ideological reasons. People chose to adopt them because they found it useful. I'm sure I'm looking at things with rose colored glasses here, but I'm of the opinion that bitcoin needs to win because it's undeniably better -- and I think that happens when people adopt it because it's the best way to achieve their goals.
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For me, it's not that I think Bitcoiners should be ideologically pushing Bitcoin adoption so much as I think they should be avoiding the dollar with a religious-like passion.
It's their comfortable relationship with fiat, while simultaneously talking about how bad it is... that is what pisses me off the most. I think if we really believed what we preach, we would be creating small, Amish-like communities with Bitcoin circular economies and we would go out of our way to use fiat as little as possible.
I want to see a religious-like "jihad" against the dollar. Bitcoin just becomes the obvious choice for money when we refuse to use dollars. Or maybe we can try something like Goldbacks, I dunno. Just stop using dollars, mmkay? And stop giving me lip-service about taxes, greshham's law, and trojan horses. You're just making excuses to be lazy. That shit's just noise. STOP USING DOLLARS. It's a simple goal to strive for, and I'm not seeing much of it in this community.
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I think if we really believed what we preach, we would be creating small, Amish-like communities with Bitcoin circular economies
Ask your Uber driver if he has a Lightning wallet. I have... many times and there isn't one who knows what it is.