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Would you insure your Bitcoin using AnchorWatch?fountain.fm/episode/msLFTemVaBFlODuPr5IW
513 sats \ 13 comments \ @BlokchainB 7 Jul AskSN
Lately Matt’s and Marty’s podcasts have mostly been mouth pieces of their portfolio companies within their Ten31 venture capital company which brings me to today’s episode about AnchorWatch
AnchorWatch’s main product is providing insurance against bitcoin loss and some services for inheritance. Ideally this sounds like a great idea but I wonder at what price?
Are any stackers looking into using this product?
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63 sats \ 6 replies \ @Scoresby 7 Jul
Maybe if I had a hell of a lot more bitcoin than I do.
I'm pretty sure you have to use their "vault" product -- It's not like you can roll your own cold storage setup and expect to get it insured.
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117 sats \ 5 replies \ @BlokchainB OP 7 Jul
Yeah this is why I am on the fence with it. You have to use their hardware devices. Plus I’m not sure how much this costs for the small stacked stackers.
But I am all for insurance! Risk and loss happen and I am glad this company is around to help mitigate the risk of total loss especially if it happened via the $5 wrench attack
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77 sats \ 4 replies \ @justin_shocknet 7 Jul
You have to use their hardware devices
This would defeat the purpose imo, may as well just use an insured custodian if you're doing "self-custody" with their infrastructure.
I think the product makes more sense for company treasuries where the investors demand this to mitigate key-man risk
Taproot being a huge mistake and relatively new, storing large amounts of coin in a tapscript isn't aligned to a risk-averse strategy either.
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102 sats \ 3 replies \ @1fatmess 7 Jul
Taproot being a huge mistake and relatively new, storing large amounts of coin in a tapscript isn't aligned to a risk-averse strategy either.
This is hilarious and ridiculous FUD given the bitcoin you deposit with anchorwatch is literally insured.
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102 sats \ 2 replies \ @justin_shocknet 7 Jul
The insurance is meant for operational fuck-ups, if their entire portfolio of insurees get pwned that's Force majeure.
Cope harder shitcoiner.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @1fatmess 10 Jul
Christ, bit touchy aren’t we, tubby?
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73 sats \ 1 reply \ @kurszusz 10 Jul
Bitcoin was designed to be self-sustaining. Without any 3rd party :) Btw...I find Ledger to be secure enough :)
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10 sats \ 0 replies \ @BlokchainB OP 10 Jul
Ledger!!
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86 sats \ 0 replies \ @k00b 7 Jul
I don't know much about insurance, but the folks at AnchorWatch are good people fwiw.
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91 sats \ 0 replies \ @abhishandy 24 Jul
Below is a concise summary of the provided podcast transcript from an episode featuring Marty (host) and Becca from Anchor Watch. The discussion centers on Bitcoin's role in finance, Anchor Watch's custody and insurance solutions, inheritance planning, security risks, and broader market trends.

Overview

In this episode, Marty and Becca explore Bitcoin's growing appeal as a hedge against fiat currency devaluation, while delving into practical challenges like secure custody, inheritance, and insurance. Becca, from Anchor Watch, emphasizes their innovative platform for self-custody Bitcoin, which combines advanced security features with insurance to address user concerns.

Key Topics Discussed

  1. Bitcoin's Bull Case and Anchor Watch's Brand:
    • Marty highlights Bitcoin's advantages in a world of aggressive central bank policies, positioning it as a "victor" in devalued fiat systems.
    • Becca discusses Anchor Watch's popularity, noting frequent questions from users during Twitter Spaces about their unique custody setup. This includes multi-signature wallets, time locks, and insurance, which differentiate it from traditional multi-sig solutions. Users are increasingly comfortable with it, especially for inheritance and security.
  2. Inheritance and Recovery Protocol:
    • A major focus is Bitcoin inheritance, often a "headache" for users. Becca explains Anchor Watch's recovery layer, which uses time locks and involves shared custody with partners like CoinCorner. This ensures beneficiaries can access funds even if the policyholder dies, without needing to manage keys themselves.
    • The system transitions from shared custody (with Anchor Watch as a required signer) to pure self-custody after the insurance period. It includes legal safeguards, such as documentation for estate attorneys, and is designed to be flexible for trusts or individual setups.
    • Marty shares personal anecdotes about the unreliability of "treasure maps" for inheritance, underscoring the need for Anchor Watch's protocol.
  3. Insurance and Security Risks:
    • Becca addresses the rising threat of "wrench attacks" (physical theft or kidnappings), which have become more violent and frequent. Anchor Watch offers insurance covering these risks, including a new kidnap and ransom (K&R) policy backed by Lloyd's of London.
    • The insurance is Bitcoin-denominated or dollar-based, with claims processes explained. It mitigates risks by requiring multiple signers and allowing time for law enforcement intervention.
    • For institutions, insurance enhances confidence in Bitcoin as collateral, potentially lowering costs for loans and encouraging adoption in traditional finance (TradFi).
  4. Market Integration and Future Outlook:
    • The conversation shifts to Bitcoin's integration into TradFi, such as insured Bitcoin-backed loans. Becca notes that insurance provides uncorrelated revenue for reinsurers, validating Anchor Watch's model and potentially reducing premiums over time.
    • They discuss diversification benefits, with examples like private loans and partnerships (e.g., insuring Arch Lending). Marty and Becca predict a "fiduciary flight" to insured custody once Anchor Watch becomes a qualified custodian.
    • Overall, they view insurance as a critical building block for Bitcoin's mainstream adoption, enabling safer use in loans, treasuries, and beyond.

Closing Thoughts

The episode ends on an optimistic note, with Marty praising Anchor Watch's progress and Becca's resilience amid personal challenges. They stress the importance of proactive measures like insurance and inheritance planning for both individuals and institutions. A call to action encourages listeners to contact Anchor Watch for setup, emphasizing that while these topics may seem "morbid" or "boring," they are essential for securing Bitcoin in an evolving financial landscape.
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5 sats \ 0 replies \ @Solomonsatoshi 7 Jul
Isn't using a third party to insure and provide custodial solutions anathema to the whole point of Bitcoin?
I hold Bitcoin because I can hold it without any reliance upon third party rentseekers.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @BlokchainB OP 7 Jul
I might do a consult. if I pull the trigger I’ll do a post about it
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