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174 sats \ 11 replies \ @optimism 14 Jul \ on: When is freedom bad? AskSN
The freedom to exercise aggression with impunity.
this is the big one, but what about the small ones? freedom to spit on the sidewalk? freedom to smoke in a restaurant? freedom to run a large diesel generator near a playground? freedom to teach my kids to be sociopaths?
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Pollution could be defined as a form of aggression. Smoking inside a restaurant and running a large diesel generator near a playground would fall under these.
Teaching your kids to be sociopaths is technically aggression too, because your kids aren't your property, even though you're responsible for them.
Freedom to spit on the sidewalk - your own sidewalk? sure. Someone else's? Kinda rude lol.
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I think it needs a better definition of aggression so we don’t fall into the trap of thinking that even words hurt. In many of these hypothetical and poorly detailed situations, it would be enough if those responsible simply avoided those environments.
As for pollution, I agree it’s an aggression when someone pollutes a water stream, harming everyone who depends on it along its path, for example.
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I think it needs a better definition of aggression
Okay!
As for pollution, I agree it’s an aggression when someone pollutes a water stream, harming everyone who depends on it along its path, for example.
Would the same go for polluting the air that people breathe or the land that people grow food on? If not, what's the distinction?
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A watercourse has a clearer path — if someone near the source pollutes it, they’re harming everyone downstream. Air pollution, on the other hand, is much smaller compared to the volume of oxygen we have. That’s how I see it, so we don’t end up labeling everything as aggression.
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No, not at all. Otherwise, I'd be hypocritical in criticizing the aggression caused by inflation and plastic pollution, for example. Returning to my initial point, which is to avoid classifying everything as aggression. I believe aggression can be defined as an action against someone's physical integrity or property, as in the National Policy. It would be possible to delve deeper and consider whether air pollution falls under this category, perhaps.
In many of these hypothetical and poorly detailed situations
it becomes difficult because of this
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