I’m actually referring to a society without any state at all, and therefore no UBI. At least within the territories of individuals who recognize each other as such. I understand it’s a desirable but rarely applied hypothesis — especially since the corporations and mafias known as states make it difficult.

LibertasBR

AskSN

When is freedom bad?

Scoresby

I agree, but inevitably there will be some people who fall through the cracks, and then in a democratic society there's always going to be a political demand to "help" those people with other peoples' money.

That's why I don't believe Universal Basic Income can ever be a replacement for the welfare state.  I think inevitably people will vote for the welfare state again, even if UBI is already in place.