I certainly won't ever be surprised if I learn that was the case.

> I do think many of them actually believed they could improve society, in some sense, through central planning, though.

I guess that I am cynical enough to believe they **never** thought that. What they did think was they could improve their standing vis-a-vis wealth by *social redistribution* to their own pockets, though. They started as thieves and murderers and that is what they kept on doing.

Rothbardian_fanatic

Politics_And_Law

Are we seeing the unraveling of MAGA over Epstein?

TNStacker

Fair enough. They never intended those "idyllic" parts.

I do think many of them actually believed they could improve society, in some sense, through central planning, though.