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Do WNBA Players Really Want to Be Paid What They Are Owed?mises.org/mises-wire/do-wnba-players-really-want-be-paid-what-they-are-owed
319 sats \ 9 comments \ @kepford 24 Jul Stacker_Sports
Does this check out? Seems closer to correct than incorrect to me but I don't follow the WNBA.
When topics like this are typically discussed it's all emotion and entitlement with very little logic or reason. Now, the NBA and owners, players of the league can do what they want. This is however a good lesson opportunity regarding economic value and market prices.
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70 sats \ 4 replies \ @grayruby 25 Jul
They want to be paid what they think they are owed.
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40 sats \ 3 replies \ @kepford OP 21h
As we all do. And if we can't find someone that will pay us what we want we either adjust our expectations or decided to do something else. If the other party can't get us to work for what they want they similarly either find someone else or adjust their price.
This is what freedom looks like as you know.
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46 sats \ 2 replies \ @grayruby 20h
I think I quibble a bit with their use of the word owed. They are owed whatever the contract they signed says they are owned or whatever their revenue sharing agreement with the league stipulates. I think a debate could be had as to whether they provide more or less value than the amount they are owed.
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40 sats \ 1 reply \ @kepford OP 20h
Yeah, but the average person uses the word "owed" as they use fair. They both mean "what I want or like". Employment or sales is all about two parties agreeing on a price. Neither is usually getting everything they want. This is the type of thing that should be taught in schools. I have taught my sons this concept and every parent should do the same. We don't really have an education system but rather an indoctrination system. Another topic though. :)
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40 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford OP 20h
I speak from experience. I have wanted to make more money doing what I do and have had to adjust my expectations after the market showed me that my expectations were off. I could make excuses but that would be dumb and self-centered of me.
Either my services aren't worth as much to others as I believed, or I need to do a better job selling them. The other option is to improve my value proposition. Many people don't like this language but even in non-financial transactions this same calculation is done.
If you are not a good friend, if you are selfish, or even just boring you can change how you behave and win more friends. We don't talk about it much but this is a massive reason why we try to teach our kids to have manners and treat others justly. It isn't JUST that its the right thing to do(this is something we are losing by the way) but its in our best interest as well as the interest of the communities we live in.
Its always a balancing act of selfishness and generosity. I have never met a truly selfless person. I know some that are far more selfless than I, and that's amazing but even they can be selfish. Its a part of being human to prioritize things and one's self above others at times.
The root problem with this whole thing is entitlement. The idea that anyone is entitled to be paid what they want. That's horse shit. If there are multiple parties, its gonna be a negotiation.
I think what many people just can't stomach is these talented women comparing their salaries to the men. Its absurd. If the masses enjoyed watching them play more than the men... the salaries would reflect that. The idea that the salary is lower even slightly because they are women is absurd. Now, it is entirely possible that people do not enjoy watching women play basketball as much as men... but then these ladies need to direct their anger to the audience. That won't go well though.
I don't think most people realize how low the pay was for most sports before they became so popular. If people enjoyed my work anywhere near as much as watching an NBA player dunk I'd be having someone else write this comment.
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62 sats \ 1 reply \ @Undisciplined 24 Jul
What you're owed is entirely a function of contract terms. Aside from criminal damages, no one owes anyone anything else.
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42 sats \ 0 replies \ @Rothbardian_fanatic 24 Jul
Correct, you are only paid what you agree to be paid by your contract with your employer. In this case, the WNBA is in a position of loss of 40 million bucks. For there to be money to be paid to the employees, the enterprise has to have the revenues and income to pay them. The WNBA does not have those revenues and refuses to protect its assets (the top player). They deserve to go out of business post haste. Then let them make new T-shirts.
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69 sats \ 1 reply \ @StillStackinAfterAllTheseYears 24 Jul
when Caitlin Clark came to the WNBA last year as a near-force of nature that provided a huge boost in fan interest in the league, the response of most of the players bordered on violence, as Clark faced hard fouls, physical attacks, and other signs of disrespect as the players simply could not accept the presence of a white and sexually straight superstar.
He may be right (I think the truth's most likely somewhere between him and the NYT writer he criticizes even though TV viewing absolutely does matter). But that statement above is from a moron who doesn't understand basketball. It's a contact sport, and the better you are, the more you're going to take hard fouls. She didn't take them because she was white and straight (there are plenty of folks who are both), but because she came in hailed as the Greatest Ever.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @Rothbardian_fanatic 24 Jul
Could it be that her team refuses to protect their best asset? The players certainly don’t seem concerned about losing her on the court, do they? The refs also seem to be particularly blind concerning CC. She should go in strike by herself!!
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