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NBA Redraft 6/21: 2008
300 sats \ 19 comments \ @Undisciplined 8 Aug Stacker_Sports
We have another very interesting draft to evaluate.
The player who had the best career is indisputable, but was it inevitable?
Hop in your time machines and tell the Bulls who they should take with the number one pick.
While you're at it, you may as well rank your top 3 choices for them.
honorable mention: Serge Ibaka just missed the VORP cutoff
Kevin Love0.0%
Derrick Rose50.0%
Brook Lopez0.0%
Serge Ibaka0.0%
George Hill0.0%
Nic Batum0.0%
Danilo Gallinari0.0%
Deandre Jordan0.0%
Goran Dragic0.0%
Russell Westbrook50.0%
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42 sats \ 2 replies \ @gnilma 9 Aug
Knowing what we know now, I would take Westbrook in the redraft. Rose is a great great player, but the injury plagued career stops me from taking him at number one.
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50 sats \ 1 reply \ @Undisciplined OP 9 Aug
That's the question. Was an injury plagued career inevitable?
Probably, but maybe if he doesn't have that one terrible injury in 2012, the rest of his career is different.
Also, that Bulls team with Rose and Jimmy was awesome. Without the injury, there's a good chance they win a title, especially since Playoff Jimmy hadn't even emerged yet.
As good as Russ has been, we know his ceiling is lower than best player on a title team.
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42 sats \ 0 replies \ @gnilma 9 Aug
IMO, with the way Rose was playing, an injury plagued career was inevitable. The ways he attacked the basket were amazing and scary to watch at the same time. Maybe with today's conditioning/training methods, as well as load management, they might help prevent some of the injuries? Maybe not? But I still think Rose's play style was too explosive for a mere mortal body to handle.
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42 sats \ 1 reply \ @BlokchainB 11 Aug
Shoot I missed this! I take rose all day
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60 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined OP 11 Aug
Ironically, because we got such a long look at peak Russ, there’s very little doubt that his ceiling isn’t quite high enough.
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21 sats \ 11 replies \ @grayruby 8 Aug
Rose Westbrook Jordan
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82 sats \ 5 replies \ @SimpleStacker 8 Aug
I might've said Rose if another team was drafting first, but my operating assumption is that if you just repeat the actual draft, then you also repeat the actual history.
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40 sats \ 4 replies \ @Undisciplined OP 8 Aug
Well, no, because Westbrook will go 2nd this time, which means the whole timeline is a little different. So, the league is different and events will play out differently.
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82 sats \ 3 replies \ @SimpleStacker 8 Aug
The way I interpret these hypotheticals is that I'm the only one with knowledge of the future, not the whole league.
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40 sats \ 2 replies \ @Undisciplined OP 8 Aug
I guess I never specified that, but we were initially thinking in terms of full redrafts where every team is privy to this future information.
The poll format just doesn't lend itself to a full redraft. Plus, there aren't usually more than a few memorable players, anyway.
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82 sats \ 1 reply \ @SimpleStacker 8 Aug
I suppose it makes more sense for whole league anyway. If I'm the only one with private information, the best move is actually to draft who the league perceives as best in the moment, then trade for the ones that were undervalued.
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40 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined OP 8 Aug
Assuming there's a consensus, at least amongst the early drafting teams. Yeah, the right answer is probably to trade back x places and then take the best player there.
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40 sats \ 4 replies \ @Undisciplined OP 8 Aug
Woah! Jordan over Love? Explain yourself.
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42 sats \ 3 replies \ @grayruby 8 Aug
It was a toss up. Never been much of a Love fan. He did have a few really great years. I also liked Lopez. It was pretty much a toss up between the 3 for me.
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40 sats \ 2 replies \ @Undisciplined OP 8 Aug
Love's one of my favorite role players ever and I've never been a DJ guy, so I didn't think it was close.
What about the headliners? Was Rose vs Westbrook a tough call?
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42 sats \ 1 reply \ @grayruby 8 Aug
Knowing what we know now makes it a tough call.
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40 sats \ 0 replies \ @Undisciplined OP 8 Aug
That is the point of the exercise.
They both played a physically reckless style, but we learned that Russ is built like a tank.
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40 sats \ 1 reply \ @Undisciplined OP 8 Aug
*Apparently I typed "Ibaka" instead of "other" because I was thinking about him.
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42 sats \ 0 replies \ @SimpleStacker 8 Aug
Yeah I was like "Serge Ibaka missed the VORP cutoff"
sees Serge Ibaka in the poll
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