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What I find so funny with this whole thing is that China cannot produce another chip like this en masse. Also what the most recent person claimed is hilarious
The H20 chips are also not technologically advanced or environmentally friendly, the account, Yuyuan Tantian, which is affiliated with state broadcaster CCTV, said in an article published on WeChat.
This just builds upon the Chinese worry that there is a secret backdoor when not only is there not but there is no proof!
China’s cyberspace watchdog said on July 31 that it had summoned Nvidia to a meeting, asking the U.S. chipmaker to explain whether its H20 chips had any backdoor security risks — a hidden method of bypassing normal authentication or security controls.
Nvidia later said its products had no “backdoors” that would allow remote access or control.
In its article, Yuyuan Tantian said Nvidia chips could achieve functions including “remote shutdown” through a hardware “backdoor.”
Yuyuan Tantian’s comment followed criticism against Nvidia by People’s Daily, another Chinese state media outlet.
In a commentary earlier this month, People’s Daily said Nvidia must produce “convincing security proofs” to eliminate Chinese users’ worries over security risks in its chips and regain market trust.
I gotta say its pretty hard to prove something doesn't exist when there is no evidence of it and the idea behind it is almost technologically impossible. Certain Members of Congress wanted Nvidia to do this but Nvidia made it clear it wasn't that simple and they were not sure if it would even be possible.
Wonder how nvida investors will respond to this news
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195 sats \ 1 reply \ @Cje95 OP 18h
I mean China is still going to buy them. They dont have an option really as Huawei Ascend chips have lower bandwidth memory performance and they are still trying to work out all the kinks with them.
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189 sats \ 0 replies \ @optimism 16h
Although the back-and-forth is more political playacting than real, and I agree that CM384 isn't a silver bullet, nor does it sound like it's fully ready for massive scale yet, but there's still something that shouldn't be underestimated: scalability.
See https://arxiv.org/abs/2506.12708. They're basically working around having a generation older capabilities with parallel processing, where each component is horizontally scalable:
This also makes sense when you take into account that China does not have stagnation in electricity generation.
Or, to quote Jensen Huang himself according to this SCMP article from June:
Nvidia founder and CEO Jensen Huang appeared to agree with Ren’s assessment. “AI is a parallel problem, so if each one of the computers is not capable … just add more computers,” Huang said last week in an interview with US broadcaster CNBC on the sidelines of the VivaTech conference in Paris.
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100 sats \ 1 reply \ @Grateful 21h
Is there any technology out there that doesn’t have a back door?
No more than a handful of good ones.
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21 sats \ 0 replies \ @optimism 16h
Only things that you can verify / build yourself; which in practice means only those chips where you can get the HDL. There's a list but I am not sure how up-to-date and complete that is.
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