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I think you mean they are selectively transparent.
I always like to compare churches to the state. I have never been a part of a church that was less transparent than all governments. Critics of the church like to apply criticism they do not apply to any other organization.
Now in truth they should be above all others and above reproach. Sadly that is rarely the case. But the groups responsible for the most death and destruction in society are states. Not the church.
We are the church and believe me I have a mound of criticism for the people in all churches. I blame the church for most of this problems we see today. The church has retreated. Christians have placed the state above the church. If we cast down that idol I believe we'd see an amazing transformation.
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You do realize the Catholic Church is the most likely candidate for the whore of Babylon, right? "City on Seven Hills, Rome, etc." I get what you are saying, but I'm not sure the Catholic Church is the hill to die on?
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Not my intention to die on any hill. Just trying to be even handed. As I said. I'm not Catholic. If I believed they were the church I would be.
And no I don't realize what you are stating. There are many theories I've heard over the years and that is not one I buy. I think most of the end times theories are pretty shallow and weak. Most importantly they are mostly distracting people from living for Christ and loving their neighbors. But they are exciting and that is why they get so much attention. I get it. I used to be into that stuff.
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I suspect many are about to be "into that stuff" whether they wish to be or not. The past twenty years has been wading "into that stuff" and the past ten has been definitively "into that stuff". People simply would rather not wake up to it. Nobody likes a wake up call that says "Hey, it's the apocalypse time, enjoy your breakfast".
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You are way off where I'm coming from. I have a long history in the end times stuff. Where I have landed is that I'm highly suspicious of novel theories on theology. One of the prime problems in the Protestant world is the ignorance of historical Christian doctrine. If a few people have a new theory on a passage they could be correct. But the burden of proof is on them not the orthodoxy of Christianity for the last 1900/years.
Speaking in generalities on purpose here because there are many novel theological positions on many things. Prophetic and apocalyptic texts are the most difficult for us to parse. I'm not saying you are wrong. I'm saying I choose to trust that God has it under control and that He will reveal to me truth and guide me and my family.
Does that make sense?
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You are way off where I'm coming from. I have a long history in the end times stuff. Where I have landed is that I'm highly suspicious of novel theories on theology. One of the prime problems in the Protestant world is the ignorance of historical Christian doctrine. If a few people have a new theory on a passage they could be correct. But the burden of proof is on them not the orthodoxy of Christianity for the last 1900/years.
I wasn't talking about where you were coming from. I am talking about where things have been and are.
Speaking in generalities on purpose here because there are many novel theological positions on many things. Prophetic and apocalyptic texts are the most difficult for us to parse. I'm not saying you are wrong. I'm saying I choose to trust that God has it under control and that He will reveal to me truth and guide me and my family.
Sure. Of course, He might be doing that right now. That's the thing for most believers. They want to contain God in a box concerning how they expect the message to arrive. They often fail to see or understand that they have all ready been given notice and warning.