I've never heard of anyone using it before and am genuinely curious if anyone has gotten any value out of it or ever found a use case for it.
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I've never heard of anyone using it before and am genuinely curious if anyone has gotten any value out of it or ever found a use case for it.
It's not used very often except for trading, but here's why it's valuable for that:
I wish it was used more than it is. Samson Mow's company Jan3, which work's on nation-state adoption is going to be re-releasing Blockstream's "Aqua Wallet," promising to have easy BTC, LN, Liquid BTC and other Liquid assets like Liquid USDT. This may be a gamechanger.
Alot of maxis are against it. But they had the opportunity to create a token while making this. They didnt. They used Bitcoin for this network. This is just another tool of Bitcoin, and has some attributes that may be able to be of use for privacy purposes in the future if more people use it.
Thanks for the background!
Wait until fees on the bitcoin blockchain become higher again -- interest in Liquid network will jump.
Here's a post with a number of ways Liquid network can be used:
What is the Liquid Network? https://help.blockstream.com/hc/en-us/articles/900002016823-What-is-the-Liquid-Network-
I can hold the keys to my L-BTC (e.g., using Blockstream Green wallet), and can transfer that more quickly than I can with bitcoin (blocks on Liquid network occur every minute, and a transaction is deemed confirmed / final with just two block confirmations).
So if I want to pay an LN invoice but I don't have a node and I don't already have funds on an LN wallet -- but I have L-BTC, I can do something like deposit via Liquid network to CoinOS Classic and two or three minutes later I can then use those funds to pay an LN invoice. (I haven't done this since CoinOS created the new front-end so maybe someone might confirm this still works now that it is CoinOS Classic).
There are a couple other swap services that offer (L-BTC <--> LN BTC) as well (SideShift.ai and Flyp.me), but neither of those can be used from the U.S., and have a higher fee).
KYC-Free-Instant-Exchanges https://cointastical.github.io/KYC-Free-Instant-Exchanges
This.
I’m now using the Liquid Network to stack L-BTC whilst the mempool is on fire.
Kraken Pro LN Withdraw > Boltz.Exchange LN<>L-BTC atomic swap > stacked sats secured by Jade HWW.
When, the mempool hits a quiet patch, I’ll swap back to LN via Boltz, then send funds on mainchain to cold storage.
I use it pretty regularly for onchain spending txns. I peg-in largish chunks every so often and spend out with peg-outs via sideswap.
I wouldn't mind spending from there as well if more folks used it (instead of pegging out). I bought a Jade wallet using it and it was pretty much the same experience as onchain bitcoin.
but why not do onchain spending directly?
Testing out obfuscating UTXOs. It's currently not the best because there's no crowd to hide in, but it's much better than a fully transparent onchain trail.
I think eventually it'll be really useful as well as folks build gateways to swap out to lightning too (similar to fedimint gateways being built).
I started using it when onchain fees had gone up, as a cheaper spending alternative without having to maintain lightning infra & liquidity.
I too have a Jade, which is what prompted my interest in potentially interacting with it. Do you have any learning resources for the concepts you've mentioned here?
https://liquid.net https://sideswap.io
Good looking out
If you want to issue a token for some reason than it's a reasonable choice. Your other option is to use something with smart contracts, but then people will be afraid of your token because it might contain some scam inside the smart contract.
Thank you for your question. I learnt something new today!
As am I!
I've used it.
True that not many others do.
We'll have to see what happens with ES bonds & tether too
Have you heard of Pear? That might try to replace tokens on Liquid.
is this pear ? : https://thebitcoinmanual.com/articles/what-is-pear-credit/
Yeah, it's a new token issuing platform that doesn't use a blockchain however distributes the info of who has what tokens peer2peer, I think the people that do Tether are working on it.
Very hard to push people there even if they use Stellar for their projects. I know an example of token for local economy.
Yes, I do. Mostly for USDT. But not too often.
https://i.postimg.cc/5yFLK83g/liquid10-2-3x.png A snapshot of the Liquid ecosystem in 2022
Source:
The Truth About Liquid https://blog.liquid.net/the-truth-about-liquid
Related:
https://twitter.com/bradmillscan/status/1596247946357575680 [Nitter]
And the reply:
https://twitter.com/tierotiero/status/1596341234590961665 [[Nitter}(https://nitter.at/tierotiero/status/1596341234590961665)]
There are no exchanges in the U.S. that support L-BTC (Liquid network) (other than P2P exchanges such as Bisq which have L-BTC has payment method).
How to Get L-BTC https://blog.liquid.net/how-to-get-l-btc
https://sideswap.io wallet is a good start.
What the heck is the Liquid network?
It's a layer-2 created by Blockstream -> https://blockstream.com/liquid/