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752 sats \ 12 comments \ @taxd 7 Jan 2023 nostr

Is nostr anonymous if I use clearnet? Can't a (malicious) relay immediately associate a pub-key and the IP-address of the client? fiatjaf: "Nostr allows for the proliferation of anonymous entities offering services without having to be registered companies or even have a website."

I understand that i2p, vpn or Tor can be used but it would be convenient to avoid this. Onion-routing over nostr?

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181 sats \ 1 reply \ @l0k18 7 Jan 2023

Malicious peers will always be able to potentially capture traffic from yours and narrow down to your IP address.

Yes you would need to tunnel through some kind of VPN or mixnet. I'm not an expert on Nostr architecture but it does not have any kind of path blinding or mixnet feature as part of it so yes the address you broadcast new data from will be visible to the nodes you first broadcast it to.

Possibly you can reduce this danger by selectively broadcasting to trusted nodes only, but even then you are just ending up in a pool of potentials. All anonymity systems benefit from more users.

1 sat \ 0 replies \ @chairman_pretense 7 Jan 2023

One way around this would be clients that can connect as a mesh network IRL. Mesh clients could pass notes to random mesh peers and then broadcast to relays. Sats would be the incentive for mesh peers to broadcast notes.

100 sats \ 4 replies \ @DarthCoin 7 Jan 2023

Are you going to sell weird stuff over nostr with your real identity? We are just posting some memes and shit over nostr. Why do you care?

People should learn how to use different "identities" when is necessary.

What is private, do it privately. What is public, do it with nyms and never linked to your private identity. A nym can have multiple locations. Today you can use multiple VPN IPs so easy that is really hard for somebody to track you. Use clean browsers that do not let pages to track use.

The question is: from whom are you afraid and why? You are a tax lover and statist, why would you care so much about privacy?

0 sats \ 3 replies \ @BlokchainB 7 Jan 2023

My guess is to protect yourself from being hacked?

0 sats \ 2 replies \ @DarthCoin 7 Jan 2023

hacked how? Please explain how by simply using a nostr client in a browser you can be hacked? So if you use a VPN or Tor you will not be "hacked"? LOL man, you are one of those opening all email attachments that says "click here to win an iphone"? 😂😂😂😂😂😂

0 sats \ 1 reply \ @BlokchainB 7 Jan 2023

LOL just saying in general.

I’m not sure how but sim swaps and people getting their PGP keys pwned means it can happen

it’s More likely no one gives a damn about you. Thus why I been thinking of running a clear net LN node

50 sats \ 0 replies \ @DarthCoin 7 Jan 2023

Man, what have to do sim swaps with a damn IP used to browse nostr? What have to do PGP keys with a damn IP used to browse on nostr?

If you use a clean simple browser, that block all the shit and in special YOU are not clicking all the shit links you find on pages, you have nothing to worry. Nobody will do shit with your IP.

Too much paranoia for nothing.

11 sats \ 0 replies \ @pi 7 Jan 2023

Here's an article about the current state of Nostr Privacy:

https://consentonchain.github.io/blog/posts/nostr-privacy/

1 sat \ 0 replies \ @BTCNEWS_TODAY 7 Jan 2023

Use your own relay to broadcast your notes. Similar to using your own Bitcoin node to broadcasting your own tx's.

1 sat \ 0 replies \ @000 7 Jan 2023

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1 sat \ 0 replies \ @nout 7 Jan 2023

Yes, currently Nostr isn't much private when compared with e.g. Signal.

0 sats \ 0 replies \ @faithandcredit 8 Jan 2023

The lender is master to the borrower. Alot of people and businesses will learn this the hard way as they dial interest rates to 7. This squeeze will cause alot of pain for most people since most people and busineses have debt, that's the culture for the last 40 or so years. Debt financed consumption! But it is a trap and they will present a solution: CBDC. Out of desperation people will adopt it. All debts will be forgiven, with the CBDC it will be a fresh start. However, with the CBDC if it happens they will be more of a slave than they were before.