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It is with great regret that I even considered starting this discussion, before checking how much it would cost; fortunately, the satoshal price pales in comparison to my personal loathing to consider jumping ship... however, I simply find that Github itself is slowly boiling the bilge, and see no reason to remain onboard.
A bit of history, for those who aren't familiar with the relevant politics: the Github website and the hosting services it provided were originally built by an independent startup, and it got acquired by Microsoft; along the way, the whole "social media" phenomenon has warped how the Internet looks and behaves in countless ways, some of them painfully obvious, and some of them quite subtle. Eventually, various advocacy groups began encouraging developers to reduce their dependence upon Github, for a variety of reasons; however, for much the same reasons, the bulk of human buzz around various technology projects still orbits various Github infrastructure, even if critical projects like the Linux kernel or the core Git tools don't actually depend upon the Github website for their ongoing development and maintenance efforts.
Unfortunately, the Github community (including official representatives of Github itself) have repeatedly given me reason to not only consider myself unwelcome, but also consider their apparent openness an actual deceptive practice, resembling the cheese in a mousetrap, if you'll excuse the subtle metaphor riffing off their once-cute mascot. After already getting banned once from interaction with one of their official "Orgs", and eventually getting that ban revoked, I have now been banned again, without explanation, and this time from the entire community Org, effectively removing my ability to participate in the main Discussions part of their site.
I can't even detail all of my various actions and comments that led to this situation, because they have been moderating old comments of mine, and because I naively never imagined that I'd get faded out like this, I haven't been immediately archiving my every step upon completion; furthermore, I must draw a line somewhere, and actually post this poll so the discussion here can begin, rather than waffle indefinitely over perfecting my complaint.
Ultimately, the impression I get from the past few years is that folks in charge want the atmosphere of Github to converge upon the same sort of faux-inclusive, permanently-happy, twee-emoji circlejerk found at the top of LinkedIn feeds, and while I don't mind occasionally using these sites to brighten the emotional influences radiated towards my person by the computer, I definitely value my own freedom of expression highly enough to seriously reconsider whether I should continue lending my own efforts to theirs.
And now, for the poll:
I have provided three choices that require no further comment; and one for making clear that you have some opinion that doesn't fit cleanly into the simple choices. Unless your opinion truly is accurately captured by one of the simple choices, please vote "Abstain" even if you don't have the time to detail your precise opinion in the comments! This is important for data quality of the eventual results.
Abstain [please comment your opinion...]12.5%
Take steps to leave Github entirely75.0%
Remain, without appealing the ban12.5%
Remain and appeal the ban from community0.0%
8 votes \ 47 days left
I had like 5 different github accounts or even more. After microsoft bought i started to get rid of them. I even sold one for really good money. Somebody needed a reputation for a job and it was the perfect account for it. Old enough, not many commits and only on one topic. I wish microsoft good luck with their database when we start to trade accounts. I still have a github account associated with solar, one with bitcoin from 2017 and a few others.
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Time for a nice cup of gitea...
Or, you could forgejo some other way forward.
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Thank you for the suggestions; if you have the time to read my post carefully, you might notice that the main problem I'm facing is the ostracism from the "social media" side of the site, and they haven't actually taken any steps preventing me from using the git repository hosting service... obviously, if I wish to avoid getting frog-boiled, then I shouldn't naively consider this some sacred unwritten covenant, and it is always a good idea to keep mirrors of code. I realise this fine point might not be obvious, given that the title, poll options, only hyperlink, and final paragraph are all simply about leaving Github.
However, the topic of specific alternatives for hosting repositories and related infrastructure is an important one; so I'll note here, both for my own future reference, and for anyone else seeking alternatives:
  • Forgejo maintains a list of instances with open registration.
  • Gitea Cloud is a fully managed Git hosting service powered by the lightweight and highly extensible Gitea platform.
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Both of these places have communities that surround them--not the same way that git does, but I considered git effectively dead when Microsoft bought them. That's been some time ago. From my perspective, then, this is all "old news" and the fact you have been able to go this long without facing aspects of the problems you outline before now is a wonder.
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I'm probably too good at coping with the number of happily employed creative types who think "Web Developer" is the best job in the world.
My account was created in 2009, shortly after I began using Linux after never talking to the friend who recommended it again; I did quickly find enough working code to occasionally chat over text, although I never cursed him for not warning me about the dangers of rapid adoption, because we'd both been teenagers when he recommended trying Linux, and told me to wait awhile because we bonded over first-person shooters that didn't run outside of Windows.
Between 2010 and 2012, I might have logged in to the website five times, pulled a dozen, and pushed once. Those were pretty much the quietest years in the history of the Jordan river, so the Israeli Defense Forces kept folks busy learning how to use tools. Nobody in any sane military dreams of deploying some new code and expecting the kids to figure it out.
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Ah, the "I am sorta living my dream" creative bubble, and that's good enough for me!
2010-12 were far from quiet for me. It is funny, though, how often people will get some advice from someone, take it, and forget where it came from.
I'm not sure what you mean about the IDF. Do you mean you were part of the IDF, or you were working against it?
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I'm not sure what you mean about the IDF. Do you mean you were part of the IDF, or you were working against it?
I began basic training in 2010. Fortunately, by the time they stopped expecting me to do anything beyond fade away of old age, I had not accumulated any regrets. It's a little sad how military bureaucracies claim to want talented and motivated people, although do their best to drive away anyone who dreams of affecting the system rather than only serving it.
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Ah, well, I think it is a credit to you that you served in the IDF, although I certainly understand the disenchanting aspect the military has on people who join it. I think the key is to focus on the reasons a person serves, and not the reasons the military says are the reasons people ought to serve.
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focus on the reasons a person serves, and not the reasons the military says are the reasons people ought to serve
conscription is a difficult issue. most officers with whom I discussed it emphasized that they'd prefer soldiers who served voluntarily, or at least, willingly, rather than unmotivated conscripts; and that this opinion went quite high, although at the statistical level, the government kept conscription simply due to the need for enough manpower.
100 sats \ 1 reply \ @adlai OP 11 Sep
It was definitely an interesting diversification of my education; I had begun programming independently, and not really developed any impressive skills; nor did I get any security clearance required for continuing to write software. However, the middle year of my service consisted mostly of doing QA with one of the contractors that had sold to the ministry of defense the old dream of a connected battlefield, information flowing from the radars through the touchscreen and even out the tubes. The grand vision was implemented in a dozen different ways by various hardware and software that contractors were busy updating as quickly as the government could pay them to create new bugs while keeping diligent track of the familiar ones.