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What a relief. This is not the first vote, and it will not be the last. They will vote again, and again, until something passes. Hopefully they can't garner more support for the current proposal. The best we can hope for is that what finally passes will be severely watered down.
The authoritarian trend in Europe is very scary.
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Happens in California too. Activists don't get the vote they want one time they just try and try again next time. There needs to be some rule about if something is voted down once it can't be brought again for 3 years or something
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They'll just change the name and "incorporate feedback".
Remember, France used to be against this too, then a deal was made by making it "opt-in", so that one could use encrypted chats, but if opted out of the surveillance, not encrypt images. Which is technically dumb anyway, because if I properly encrypt a file, I can send you the ciphertext in base64 as a text message and no one will ever know. Unfortunately, the most important technical objection (circumventing encryption for the masses) didn't change with that deal.
I expect a deal to be made once more in a follow-up round. Politicians can be very coercible when their future power is threatened. So all the pro-police-state Euros need to do is to find a weak spot, exploit it, and then 600M people will find themselves surveilled - all because a bunch of Brussels Sprouts weigh power > integrity.
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