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I think Covid broke a lot of people. Every event isn't being covered up by state actors.
I'm not saying this one is as it seems... I don't trust the FBI but what I have seen so far is a bunch of idiots seeking attention. Could I be wrong? Yeah. Does the official story make sense to me? Yeah. Seems to me to be the most likely. But I don't know anything.
I do know a lot of people's questions have simple answers. Conspiracy theory study is not ideology. It seems to be an addiction for some people.
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I haven't seen answers to why there appear to have been decoys in the audience to distract law enforcement.
Shouting "I'm the shooter", or whatever it was, is very bizarre when a man was just murdered right in front of you.
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Also the other guy, long curly hair and beard, who jumped up and down and made a huge commotion.
Weren't there a total of at least 3 people who were very pointedly doing things that in retrospect seem very much like deliberate distractions?
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That sounds right. I only remember from the immediate aftermath that there were a few, but not how many total.
Unless you knew someone was going to be shot, that does seem like a very inorganic reaction. Of course, they might just be other deranged lefties from the discord group who were in on it and it goes no further than that.
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Now I'm wishing that I had saved everything that I've seen and organize it carefully. Saved the videos, everything. It's so easy for things to be deleted.
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I'm sure someone did. That Laser guy on nostr was documenting a lot of oddities as the story developed.
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104 sats \ 10 replies \ @grayruby 6h
One thing I don't get in all of this, especially after what happened to Trump, is you have a couple guys standing behind Charlie watching the crowd for close proximity threats. Why don't they have a guy watching for long range threats. I mean the roof of the building the supposed shot came from was right in front of them. Shouldn't a guy with binoculars be watching that roof?
I know they aren't going to have the same level of security for a college campus event as they would for a Trump rally but seems like a pretty glaring oversight not to have one guy watching for long range threats.
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109 sats \ 8 replies \ @kepford 6h
Yeah, hindsight is 20/20. You bring up a good point. Why wasn't the security for Trump better? I get why it wasn't for Kirk. Turning Point is well funded but it isn't the US Secret Service. I think it is easy for us to not realize how vulnerable we all are.
I was reminded while listening to No Agenda this week how many assassination attempts we have actually had from the 60s into the 80s. There were a LOT of politically motivated violence throughout those decades.
I don't have a hard time believing security details are not good. Especially when I hear that Kirk's friend was the head of it... All of the criticisms are fair but they don't me jump to the conclusion that it was an inside job.
After 911 there were a LOT of really dumb things done to "do something" to secure different places. Its a joke. Many men were stationed places to "watch" for terrorists. If there were the number of terrorists wanting to kill Americans that we were told we would have had MANY more events. We are very lucky they were lying about all that. There are only a handful of people that have both the motive, skill, and drive to do stuff like this. Most people aren't mentally ill enough to do it. That's our only saving grace.
Believe me. We are super vulnerable both on the physical and technical sides. I think we over-estimate our security and security people and over-estimate how many people want to kill others.
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I think it is easy for us to not realize how vulnerable we all are.
Exactly! This is the point of terrorism. Even people with security are either very exposed very often or they're extremely restricted in where they go.
84 sats \ 1 reply \ @grayruby 6h
I am not saying it means it was an inside job. I am just saying it is a legitimate question. I am sure it is not easy to fully secure every possible threat scenario in an open space with thousands of people but seems like an obvious oversight for professionals to miss. There are a lot of people that aren't good at their jobs. I mean someone could have been assigned to it and he was talking to girls in the crowd or trading shitcoins on his phone instead and not paying attention.
That, to me, is one of the most suspicious things.
Why on EARTH wouldn't you at least have a couple drones up there, buzzing around? They're are SO CHEAP now and SO EASY.
That absolutely doesn't make sense.
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42 sats \ 2 replies \ @kepford 6h
That dude is unhinged in some of what he is "documenting". Some of these dudes need some years on them. Way to confident in themselves.
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Wouldn't surprise me. I didn't put much stock in it, but publishing to nostr at least creates a somewhat permanent documentation. We might at least have some confidence that what we're looking at wasn't altered after the fact.
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42 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 6h
100%. I have been reading it and rolling my eyes. But I'm glad people are able to put stuff out there. Unlike many, I support freedom of speech, freedom to be hateful, and freedom to be an idiot.
I say... let them talk. Let them talk. Only the weak try to shut people up with violence.
I'm sure someone did. That Laser guy on nostr was documenting a lot of oddities as the story developed.
Could you link to the Laser Guy on nostr?
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69 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 6h
Don't get me wrong. I'm not saying we know everything. I'm not saying there wasn't some leftist group working together. That is not only possible, I think its likely. At the very least we know there are people celebrating this act.
Shouting "I'm the shooter", or whatever it was, is very bizarre when a man was just murdered right in front of you.
There are a LOT of mentally ill people and false confessions are very common. Someone like Kirk brings out these kinds of people.
What I have a hard time with is that it was an inside job and the guy in custody is a patsy. That's possible but I've seen nothing that even makes me suspect that.
What bugs me is that before anyone knows much of anything idiots on the Internet start making dumb claims with no evidence. It seems like a sport for them to me.
We still don't know what happened with the Trump assassination. And Trump is in power. There were many odd things about that event. I just think this exercise can be a huge waste of time and distraction. We know the current admin in Israel is evil. We know they funded terrorism to increase support for their actions. We know the US government has been behind stuff like this in other countries.
Now what? What is known and admitted should be enough to wake people up but it isn't. So to me... there's a bottom to this hole of conspiracy showing the evil actions of the state and political movements. I'm convinced. So what? These people that focus on this solely seem to have no end game except conspiracy porn for gain.
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