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It's not the same. The left makes explicit calls for violence that they follow through on. That's the only speech they're at risk of losing. And the antisemitism meme was a pretext for deporting non-citizen leftist agitators, not real speech supression.
The context here is a Office Depot employee refusing to print charlie kirk posters. IIRC, that employee was fired.
IMO, a private business should have the right to refuse service for any reason. I might be sympathetic to an argument that if all businesses are refusing service to someone on the basis of race or political affiliation, then the state might have a compelling reason to step in, but in this case I am sure many other businesses would have been willing to print the posters.
It's the same with the Christian baker who refused to bake a gay wedding cake. The gay couple could have gone to many other bakers to get their cake. The state should not be compelling a baker to make a product he doesn't want to make.
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Exactly.
My real problem with the state compelling people is that if the state is "the people" (its not but people believe that lie) then the state should reflect the will of the people. Not some ideal that the people don't like.
This is where democracy really breaks down for me. It seems to me the free market is more democratic.
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Freedom of association means I can choose who I talk to, who I do business with, and many other things. That's what I'm talking about. You are missing the point here.
Let me explain. Bondi is saying businesses cannot refuse to provide a service to people. She is advocating for the state forcing a business to print something.
What happens with the left gets into power and do the same thing. They already try to do this all the time. You can't complain about it when they do it and cheer when your team does it.
Bondi and Trump for that matter aren't ideological. They aren't principled. There are people in the admin that are but not Bondi.
Freedom of speech goes two ways. I do not have the right to shut you up. But you do not have the right to force me to support you are use my services or tools. That is authoritarianism and YES it is what the left wants and will do. We should be better than them. Not like them.
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