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Not here to propose solutions.
Here to raise the issue and gauge the response...so far it is almost exclusively the sort of inane evasion and denial you have shown.
Have not made any claims you have demonstrated to be 'bold' and so you again make false assertions.
It is absurd to say the field is too complex for us to discuss and debate- that is just another form of evasion- a complete and utter cop out.
Have not claimed to know how this will play out either (yet another misrepresentation that you infer) - just that it is an issue that deserves serious consideration and discussion and debate.
I would say with some confidence that denial that there is a problem when there clearly is one is one hell of a good way to allow that problem to grow bigger rather than finding any possible logical responses and solutions. The first step toward solving most problems is acknowledging they exist!
One advantage the west has is presumably freedom of speech, and thought- though the response to date - you could have fooled me!
This is an existential challenge to the wests hegemony, wealth and power- and you dismiss it as 'too complex' to discuss. Absurd and again outright evasion.
Rather ironically given your references to Chinese cultures 'saving face' tendency, you appear to exhibit very much a similar pride and inability to face up to what is a humbling challenge we face.
Perhaps the west is blinded by its arrogance accumulated over 500 years of global hegemony?
Have not made any claims you have demonstrated to be 'bold' and so you again make false assertions.
You literally say "China has won the trade war" in every post. You even say it in comments on posts that aren't about the topic.
Not sure what kind of refute you expect from stackers. It's primarily a discussion on Bitcoin right? That's what I'm generally here for, not to argue about topics and issues I have no expertise in.
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I have supported that claim multiple times with facts- none of those supporting arguments have ever been refuted.
Do you even know what my supporting arguments are?
If you can refute them credibly I would be most impressed...otherwise you perhaps have not even considered them...in your haste to dismiss this perhaps frightening topic.
China dominating global trade in manufactured goods and commodities is not relevant to Bitcoin or SN more generally? Really? I would not agree. SNs as a Bitcoin based and strongly Libertarian forum is imo an ideal place to raise the issue of Chinas economic and global rise. It raises many interesting, relevant and challenging issues for Libertarians and Bitcoiners.
'As Yuval Levin of the American Enterprise Institute put it in his book “American Covenant” (2024),
“The breakdown of political culture in our day is not a function of our having forgotten how to agree with each other but of our having forgotten how to disagree constructively.”
Disagreeing constructively requires that you first consider the arguments with which you purport to disagree.'
You have claimed first up that you lived in China for 15 years - so that is a substantial amount of first hand experience, if true. None of your subsequent comments evidence any direct and detailed personal experience or knowledge of modern China so maybe it was a false claim.
However since when exactly do we need to be experts to discuss any topic???
Is freedom of speech and the contest of ideas it enables not still operative???
I welcome any constructive contribution to this debate - but am constantly amazed and disappointed that almost none has occurred, but still remain optimistic and a believer in the power of freedom of speech to both raise issues and increase knowledge and understanding and ultimately potentially lead to solutions.
Already I believe it has been established there is a huge chasm of denial and fear around this topic and that in itself motivates me to raise it more, rather than be silenced by people demanding silence and ignorance.
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