Since it's happened, I've been obsessed with researching the Charlie Kirk story. Charlie Kirk was the prominent and vocal head of Turning Point USA, a conservative American Christian organization. He was assassinated on Wednesday, September 10, 2025, at a university campus in Utah state, during an open-air debate (he was famous for debating students). The assassination was seen by thousands of horrified onlookers.

What happened? Who shot him, and why did they do it? What is the official account - and how full of holes is it?

It is certainly a long, messy story. As part of me trying to break free from this obsession, I'm going to write up some notes. I've assembled these points from sources online, mostly from Twitter (X) and YouTube comments. This is just a rough attempt at putting some notes together, I'm sure I have some facts wrong. I've tried to provide the receipts, mostly.

Let me know what you think, and where you'd like more research. I'm just learning how to use and search twitter (x).

The text message exchange between Robinson and his boyfriend is beyond strange It uses the oddest wording, and terminology that a 22 year old never would have used. Like "Delete this exchange", "one vehicle lingering", "attempt to retrieve" - they all seem like law enforcement jargon. Here's the full exchange - https://www.newsweek.com/tyler-robinson-roommate-lance-twiggs-charlie-kirk-texts-2130798

Honestly this text message exchange seems SO fake. I wonder if whoever was told to do it, intentionally did a really bad job, so that everyone can tell it's faked. It's so bad there's already some parody verions of it (https://x.com/i/trending/1969423914225840513)

Here's one inconsistency (from https://x.com/ImJustB1ake/status/1968040496552612284) The text messages, listed as sent on Sept 10, state that “..the feds released a photo of the rifle” Except photos were not released until Sept 11.

Here’s another inconsistency in the text message. First - he tells his boyfriend that he did it, and the boyfriend seems shocked (as if this is the first he's hearing it). Then later on he says “remember when I engraved the bullets?” But how would the boyfriend both remember Tyler engraving bullets - and then be shocked to hear about the murder?

Another one - he says in the text message “I had hoped to keep this secret till I died of old age”. But then - before he left to allegedly drive off and shoot Charlie Kirk, he had already left a handwritten note under his computer keyboard, which said “I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and I'm going to take it.”

From YouTube comment on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YB1Hkh4lUg (channel Signal before Silence, also He absolutely did not assemble the gun on the roof before the shooting. It wouldn't have been zeroed at all, and when you assemble the barrel of a rifle to the stock, it will absolutely NOT shoot the same way it did before. I can't believe the audacity of the lying the feds are doing.

They "found" a screwdriver on the roof, which apparently was used to dismantle the rifle and put it in his backpack. The problem with this story is the panning video FOOTNOTE you see, with Robinson running. People were JUST started to duck from the shot, and he was already running. On top of that plenty of experts are saying that rifle cannot be dismantled (with a screwdriver no less) that fast.

The shooter in the video did not jump down with a rifle. That thing flopping around was either a jacket or blanket or towel. Then, the FBI found the rifle in a bush, reassembled in a towel. Why would he reassemble it? When the narrative was that he disassembled it on the roof?

There's lots of evidence against the FBI narrative of Charlie Kirk being shot from the front, from 200 yards away. Many people talk about lots of evidence suggesting a shot coming from the right, with the exit wound on Charlie's left. Here's a good overview - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltakvGyzfZs&rco=1

Here's another video that seems well thought out, on the shooting itself https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YB1Hkh4lUg

Inconsistencies in timeline of suspect dropping off roof, and time of shooting. He would have had to been sprinting within 3 or 4 seconds of the shot being fired https://x.com/RyanMattaMedia/status/1968565261708988676

https://x.com/RyanMattaMedia/status/1968540301774958884 Charlie Kirk was shot on a Wednesday, Tyler arrived to the university at 8:39am. The University would have been packed with student walking to class all over the campus. How did no one see him scouting the rooftops? How did he know Charlie would be setup in a location that he would give him a clear line of sight? He retrieved the gun at 12:15, made it to the prone position at 12:22, then took the shot at 12:33? Some how he also assembled his rifle and disassembled his rifle and that exact same period of time?

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They ripped up all the concrete and had everything repaved in less than a week Seriously, even just getting permits for that kind of thing will often takes weeks. And they had it completely done so quickly. Was the bullet even found? https://x.com/KaceeRAllen/status/1968674937985540217, https://x.com/ninoboxer/status/1967712045983469829 (this is reported in many places)

There's a decoy/distraction, George Zinn, right in front at the event As soon as the shooting happens, he started shouting, "I did it, shoot me!". Officers arrested him, but then he dragged his feet, and his PANTS FELL DOWN as he was being dragged. He literally couldn't walk. So it took three police offers to CARRY him to a police car. Zinn explicitly says that he was doing this to allow the real shooter to get away. https://x.com/icu_luci/status/1968165820846182725/photo/1

So now there's three police officers that couldn't be around to look for the actual killer. And George Zinn has a suspicious history, he was on a 9/11 documentary, claiming to know as soon as it happened that it was Al Qaeda (https://rumble.com/v6yvk74-breaking-george-zinn-who-was-arrested-at-the-charlie-kirk-....html. It very much seems like a planned distraction.

The camera right behind Kirk was removed 5 minutes after the shooting occurred And...the guy removing it uses the chair that Charlie Kirk was just shot off, to reach the camera! He just pulls it over, and stands on it. In a murder scene, of course, you're not supposed to do anything like that. That's gotta be a felony right there. This video is from a guy who livestreamed the whole thing, and shows the camera being taken down. The shooting is around 19 minutes in (you can just hear it, not see it) but then at 24:15 you clearly see the cameras at the back of the canopy, and then at 24:33 they're being taken down. So about 5 minutes. https://x.com/DiligentDenizen/status/1969072387707605359

The FBI director in Utah (Mehtab Syed) was fired 1 month before the shooting Apparently it was a very well respected lady who got great reviews, and had only been in there a few months. She was told to accept another position, but apparently didn't like that idea at all, and was so pissed off at the whole thing that she took early retirement. She was Muslim. This is the story about Mehtab Syed joining the Utah FBI as director. https://www.ksl.com/article/51318723/new-head-of-salt-lake-fbi-office-made-dramatic-career-shift-to-be-part-of-the-solution https://archive.vn/pE9zD (New York Times article on changes in FBI) And here's a story about her being replaced just before the assassination https://www.distractify.com/p/salt-lake-city-fbi-chief-mehtab-syed-fired

https://x.com/BlakeBednarz/status/1968396924207186213 shows that there was a security camera that would have had complete footage of the shooting, if the shooter was where the police said. Why no footage?

https://x.com/Villgecrazylady/status/1968299863356981521 SCOOP: Got a tip last night that I was able to verify with someone inside the admin that the NSA detected 12 Israeli registered cellphones at the site of the shooting last Wednesday. The NSA picked the data up and handed it over to federal law enforcement officials who passed it along to the WH.

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Potential drone associated plane There was a US spy airplane around the shooting site with a very suspicious flight path. It circled the area at a low speed and low altitude about 3 hours before the shooting. Then it did the same about 20 minutes after the shooting. The flight path is shown in the below post. https://x.com/I_Am_JohnCullen/status/1969721911417720921

There were also apparently MULTIPLE drones visible on some of the videos that people have been taken. These are not the standard consumer drones. They were extremely fast, miltary grade https://x.com/I_Am_JohnCullen/status/1969722178636775919

What was an ISR aircraft doing loitering over Utah Lake near stall speed in striking distance of Utah Valley University during the Charlie Kirk assassination? (ISR is military surveillance) https://x.com/JG_CSTT/status/1969174004490449313

https://x.com/BlakeBednarz/status/1968448023354056924 More drone info. He says he's spotted potential drones on some of the livestream footage, and asks viewers to double check his spottings. The livestream footage is here - https://x.com/lifeisdriving/status/1965962255209836810

This is a private jet that left the nearest airport, Provo, right after the shooting. "A private jet under the tail number N888KG left Provo Airport an hour after the shooting... Suspiciously 30 mins into the flight it drops off of ADS-B illegally and reappears headed back to Provo approx. an hour later... https://www.latintimes.com/private-jet-that-took-off-utah-after-charlie-kirk-assassination-disappears-mid-flight-sparking-589463

Some people speculating on the further journey of people that are potentially linked to the shooter, after landing in Page, Arizona https://x.com/_EndCorruption/status/1966261308590035035

Interesting that the jet (N11526) that left Page about 20 minutes after N888KG landed is owned by CORPORATE FLIGHT MANAGEMENT INC, which operates as Contour Aviation. Contour Aviation happens to work as charter for the US Government. 3) There was one jet waiting in Page that left about 20 minutes after N888KG landed. This was VTE3303 with a registration of N11526 and flew from Page to Phoenix International Airport

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Charlie Kirk had been massively funded by billionaire donors, many linked to Israel. He had been very reliably pro-Israel in his commentary.

However, in the past months he had been showing more and more inclination to be less loyal to the pro-zionist cause. He started questioning how long the war in Gaza had gone on. He openly speculated that Epstein was part of Israeli intelligence. He encouraged others like Tucker Carlson to publicly speculate on this topic as well, at the last Turning Point USA convention. He featured a debate at this convention between Dave Smith (anti zionist) and Josh Hammer (extreme zionist), and apparently Dave Smith really wiped the floor with Hammer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2qn0mvSCig&ab_channel=MegynKelly This is an interview on the Megyn Kelly show of Charlie Kirk, from 1 month ago, it's 17 minutes. In it, they are BOTH (apparently both of them were very strong supporters of Israel) commenting about how saying ANYTHING that might be regarded as pushback on Israel is met with extreme reactions, by Israel. Really interesting. Watch Charlie Kirk's face. It really does seem like he's been threatened or something. CK says "I have less ability sometimes online to criticize the Israeli government about backlash than actual Israeli citizens. And that's really, really weird, isn't it? That's not right."

The Megyn Kelly interview took place right after this "intervention". It's described like this: JUST IN: Candace Owens claims "threats were made" to Charlie Kirk during an intense "intervention" with Bill Ackman in the Hamptons weeks ago. Owens claims Kirk was having a change of heart on Israel before his death and says he was contacted by Bibi Netanyahu. "I know that Charlie was offered a ton of money in this moment. A ton of money..." Ackman has denied the claims, calling them "totally false." https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1967714866371891357

Tucker Carlson said that Charlie Kirk told him at a TPUSA Student Action Summit last July to highlight Epstein’s connections to Mossad, the Israeli intelligence agency Distinguishing between Netanyahu and the State of Israel, Carlson claimed that Kirk hated Netanyahu and his war against Gaza despite loving Israel, and that Kirk was “tormented” until the day he died by Zionist donors for platforming Carlson at his event. Two days before Kirk’s death, Carlson revealed that Kirk lost a $2 million donation for pledging to platform him at TPUSA’s December AmericaFest conference.. https://x.com/AFpost/status/1968145408523485271

He also realized that his base - the 18 to 25 year old young college Republicans - were very quickly turning against Israel, and questioning the Gaza war, the famine, etc. He organized a focus group in which he interviewed some of the leaders of local Turning Point USA chapters, and many of them were vocally against the war in Gaza. This went viral. https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/1948453973633237147

This is an overview video, about Charlie Kirks thoughts about Israel in the last few months. Looks to be pretty good quality. Comments on it are interesting as well. https://x.com/propandco/status/1966797805122437393

Also there's this about what he said regarding the Oct 7 2023 attack in Israel - Charlie Kirk was skeptical about the attack, and expressed doubt that the Israeli Defense Force was unaware of it in advance. The implication is that they knew, and just let it happen, or that it was actually planned by Israeli intelligence. https://www.youtube.com/live/fQ9VOlaBBeo?t=1444s - For context - this is when the guy on Charlie's left starts talking about - how likely is it that Israel didn't have foreknowledge of the attacks on Oct. 7, 2023 And this is Charlie Kirk responding - https://www.youtube.com/live/fQ9VOlaBBeo?t=1626s. He basically says he finds it very hard to believe the Israeli defence force didn't know what was going to happen, that he's been to the border and you can't go 10 feet without meeting a 19 year old with a machine gun, etc, etc.

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This is one of the first posts I made on the topic Anyone else going down the rabbit hole on the Charlie Kirk Assassination?.

I still think it works quite well as a theory, but I'm also learning more about drone assassinations, and how common they are. And it makes it seem as though this type of thing - an individual shooting from a few feet away - is not even necessary anymore. Scary. Also, in previous assassinations, apparently there are often multiple people that are prepared to do the deed, if the primary shooter fails, or something unexpected happens.

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Here's a partial list list of where I've found information. I was well along into this before I even started taking notes, so it's definitely not complete. And I don't vouch for anyone here, but it's interesting to follow some threads.

Israel, Charlie Kirk, and the Weaponization of Murder (w/ Max Blumenthal) | The Chris Hedges Report (Max Blumenthal is apparently a pretty well-respected journalist, known for good quality research) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzBarxi64PQ

Candace Owens worked for Charlie Kirk a few years back, and now has her own show. She has done a lot of videos recently expressing her thoughts on this assassination. She has a huge audience, and 3 to 5 million views on these recent videos. https://www.youtube.com/@RealCandaceO/streams

https://x.com/lifeisdriving/status/1965962255209836810 - full HD upload of a livestreamer, filming through the entire shooting event, before and after (doesn't have the actual shooting, though)

https://x.com/FBIDirectorKash Here he says "we're still investigating" https://x.com/FBIDirectorKash/status/1969809385418555404

https://x.com/signalb4silence - has had some interesting thoughs, also has a youtube channel

This one is so weird I just had to include it. They're trying to make Charlie Kirk into a saint - I think just motivated by the desire to shut up the people who have questions about the murder. https://x.com/AndrewKolvet/status/1969551427648569633 - It's by the TPUSA Spokesman. (Executive producer of The Charlie Kirk Show) He says there's no exit wound and they have the bullet!!!! And also "the fact that there wasn’t an exit wound is probably another miracle, and I want people to know." Basically - a "miracle", and Charlie saved people from being hit by the bullet. Weird stuff "“His bone was so healthy and the density was so so impressive that he’s like the man of steel. It should have just gone through and through. It likely would have killed those standing behind him too.” Another version of this story: https://x.com/FoxNews/status/1969580650471518600 'MAN OF STEEL': Charlie Kirk's body stopped a bullet that would typically "just go through everything" and it was an "absolute miracle" nobody else was killed, his surgeon told TPUSA.

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