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0 sats \ 11 replies \ @kepford OP 11h \ parent \ on: We think it's a conspiracy, it's much worse. It's a consensus! West got it wrong Politics_And_Law
I also do not recall Reno making a case for this either. Quite the contrary. He predicted the end of Germany as a nation state as we know it. They have lost their national pride and identity. I believe that is his position.
He literally said it at 28:13.
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I think I misunderstood your point then. Yeah, he said the quote. Wasn't suggesting that.
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Yeah I wasn't really clear about it I guess. My point is that if you take that as truth, then your whole assessment will be on shaky grounds.
He's not neccessarily wrong about Germany maybe not being as-is in 20-30 years, that's possible. But it won't be because Germans would be letting their wives and daughters be raped by invaders.
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It's obviously not because they are "letting" their wives and daughters be raped.
But... here's where I think he's onto something.
Even if there was a statistically clear cut correlation between migrants and crime... even saying that out loud will get you labeled or cancelled in some circles. (And these circles often are the ones closest to the decision-making power centers.)
Thus, it's not that anyone is "letting" the crime happen, but moreso stifling any debate about it such that nothing can ever get done to address the issue.
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That's fair. But also, I think RR Reno's analysis of the "post-war consensus" is primarily an analysis of the thoughts among the elite, i.e. the establishment.
Though, i do agree he probably spoke off the cuff and unfairly in the video.
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Yeah, he is speaking of the elite of the elite. I don't think he's wrong though about the German youth's willingness to serve in the military. And if @optimism is correct about the reasons that doesn't change the fundamental problem. The German youth either aren't willing to defend their nation or they have lost faith in it altogether.
And without a compelling story and outreach to migrating populations to adopt some new uniting story, the more dominant and inspiring story will win. Which is what I think he's getting at. The middle eastern and north African counties don't have weak gods.
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This whole conversation reminds me of this amazing lesson @Shugard gave to German youth about the necessity of power: #807076
I do think many young people have such a jaded view of the world, or perhaps because they've been too influenced by post modernism, that it causes them to not rise up and take responsibility for distinguishing between good and evil uses of power
I'm beginning to think that the worst response to nationalism is to demonize. That really will only give cover to the most extreme and dangerous actors. When the left calls Kirk a fascist it gives cover to the actual fascists. Same goes for the right blanketing all people of the left as woke or socialists.