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How much California takes from federal disaster relief funds is nothing compared to the Gulf of Mexico states like Florida, Louisiana, Mississippi.
From Grok, how much in federal disaster relief funds has California taken vs the hurricane southeastern states over the last decade:
California has taken $4.5 billion Southeast has taken $67.2 billion
California has 39.4 million people. The southeastern states + texas have 91.2 million people.
So even after adjusting for population, the southeast gets way more money in disaster relief than california per person.
California also paid $668 billion in federal taxes vs. $921 billion by the southeast + texas. So california also disproportionately pays more per citizen to the federal government vs the south+texas.
Long story short, I don't think there is any getting around the fact that states like NY and California contribute more to the federal tax coffers than they receive back because they are subsidizing the southern states (not just in disaster relief).
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Imma just drop this right here for ya..... It addresses everything you said and breaks down a cost per person! The data.... doesnt add up for you sadly but ya know A for effort.
  • On a per-person basis, Delaware ($10,505), Minnesota ($7,605), and New Jersey ($7,456) contributed the highest net total.
  • The largest per-person gap was in Washington, DC, where federal obligations outnumbered contributions by $19,748 per resident. Alaska ($14,990), New Mexico ($13,838), and West Virginia ($11,469) had the biggest gaps among states.
  • The federal government collected the least revenue per person from West Virginia ($4,867), Mississippi ($5,148), and New Mexico ($5,882).
This nonprofit is wholly funded by Steve Ballmer someone who donates to both parties but recently has been donating much more the the left than the right.
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Reading is tough, I understand, but if you would have even read the first paragraph of the link you sent it doesn't include disaster relief which is what we were talking about:
"In 2023, the federal government collected around $4.67 trillion from states and their residents through taxes on individuals and businesses and redistributed about $4.56 trillion back to states and residents through programs like Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare, food stamps, and education grants."
That is OK though, I appreciate you trying to contribute, just would be nice if you read the thread first and then didn't just skim the first link you googled and post it as if it proves something without even reading it.
If you'd like to say my data doesn't add up, point to the specific data point you take issue with and explain what is incorrect about it.
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There is a more intuitive way to come to this conclusion even if you don't want to read the actual data, which I understand is challenging for some.
Simply look at how states rank in: lifespan, average income, average education level, K-12 educational outcomes, obesity, infant mortality rates.
You don't even need to look at federal receipts to understand that one of these groups is obviously 'outperforming' the other.
I'm not suggesting there is anything wrong with these coastal states paying more into the federal coffers than they get back on a relative basis vs. the southeast. It is actually the only way the math maths in a progressive tax system.
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