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I have mixed feelings about this note. Let me see if I can explain. Here's how it starts:
🥜 #NutNovember
I’ll admit it. I’ve complained about Cashu without ever really using it. Testing and random transactions do not count. So this month, I’m going nuts: ⚡ Using Cashu wallets for zaps and everyday Nostr transactions. ⚡ Treating eCash not as a novelty, but as real Bitcoin on Lightning. Fight me on this!
I really like ecash. It solves a lot of my problems (being lazy and not wanting to run a lightning node and easy onboarding to the experience of internet microtransactions). However, there is a problem: I don't agree that ecash is the same as bitcoin.
The gift card model of thinking about ecash (#397764) makes the most sense to me, and it is true that we call the balances held in gift card tokens "dollars" or "euros." If someone gives you an Amazon gift card, you don't say "Oh, my! 200 Amazon points? You shouldn't have!" We call them dollars.
This is troubling though because they aren't dollars. You can only use them at Amazon. You can' t spend them anywhere else. You can trade the gift card to someone else, but it will certainly be at a discount from the face value.

Should we be saying things like "ecash is real bitcoin"?

First off: Bitcoin is already confusing enough for the general population. Adding a new thing where we say --here are your "ecash tokens" which you can think of more or less as the same as satoshis unless you don't trust the mint -- is not a workable proposition.
The whole problem here is that bitcoin is difficult to use in a self-sovereign manner if you don't want to run a server. But microtransactions are a use case that has a lot of potential to attract new users. No one else is delivering this zap experience online. It really is magic internet money. The easier this experience is, the more likely we see widespread adoption of Bitcoin.

Should we consider ecash as an onboarding path to Bitcoin or not?

102 sats \ 0 replies \ @Fenix 2h
I agree with you on that. I could be very wrong, but e-cash is the closest thing to the fiduciary desire called the “paper of bitcoin.” Put into perspective, just as Amazon gift cards are not the same as dollars, e-cash is not bitcoin. It’s a token that represents a bitcoin, and I really like that they aptly compared it to gift cards.
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