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If there’s a way to unilaterally exit but we don’t provide it, and we don’t even store the state to provide it later, then we are to blame if stackers lose funds. If you lose funds using a custodial wallet, it’s not our fault.
Yeah that was my point above.
Ah, mhh, but for me these are two different points:
  1. Unilateral exit if the wallet is only ever funded via lightning
  2. How lightning is implemented to stay trustodial
50 sats \ 2 replies \ @optimism 3h
You're right. So it's blocking because you need to know how to protect stackers, but regardless, there is still a single point of failure on every path (even if there are multiple paths, the failure is still singular within each path, and user mitigation is required to overcome it, which is as bad as custodial)
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100 sats \ 1 reply \ @ek 3h
there is still a single point of failure on every path
You mean not enough operators deleting the key and collaborating with previous owners?
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100 sats \ 0 replies \ @optimism 3h
No i mean even if you run 600 LN gateways (iirc this is also the fedimint solution) then you still have to deal with a single gateway per payment.
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