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CoinJoin will recover15.4%
Alternatives like CoinSwaps are coming0.0%
MimbleWimble+softfork will fix it in BTC0.0%
Better to use altchains0.0%
Lightning is good enough84.6%
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nice try shitcoiner...

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100 sats \ 17 replies \ @kruw 1 Dec

Coinjoin never died, check https://liquisabi.com/ for live stats.

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No, it has died and more importantly some of its users, probably a majority, could be doxxed at scale.

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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @kruw 1 Dec

Only Samourai users could be doxxed at scale, and Samourai represented only a small fraction of coinjoin liquidity compared to Wasabi.

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20% of users (dev's words on hearings) is substantial. There is a caveat that Dojo wasn't around from day one. So it may be 20% of users at the moment of their arrest.

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some of its users, probably a majority, could be doxxed at scale.

How?

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It is not 100% clear if FEDs could access collected XPUBs of Samourai Wallet users, but it was mentioned on the hearings and developers reported about 20% of users that were using Whirpool coordinators.

https://www.therage.co/samourai-wallet-maximum-sentence/

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This refers to the shut down Samourai Whirlpool. But the coordinators listed on https://liquisabi.com/ use the WabiSabi protocol used by Wasabi Wallet which does not share the users xpub.

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Yes. It was my mistake.

However, the BlocSci tool has a collection of known WabiSabi flaws when it comes to chain analysis. Albeit I am personally do not consider it as flawed protocol unlikely to JoinMarket for which my own analysis indicates that Fidelity bonds are ineffective and there is high likability that the orderbook is full of Sybills.

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the BlocSci tool has a collection of known WabiSabi flaws

this BlockSci?

10 sats \ 1 reply \ @OT 1 Dec

I'd like to see Joinstr up and running.

I read somewhere that integrating payjoin might even save TX fees. That's a great way to get a larger crowd.

For spending I think LN is good enough.

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42 sats \ 0 replies \ @kruw 1 Dec
payjoin might even save TX fees

The sender pays the mining fee for one of the receiver's inputs. It's a fee transfer rather than a fee saving.

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