Someone posted a link to the book on nostr. I invited them to review it here. I hope they do. I have thought about this a lot. I've thought about this same idea regarding alien life. Can we really evaluate other species' intelligence using our own?
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57 sats \ 2 replies \ @Undisciplined 2 Dec
This question is why I think it's so important to grant other beings the benefit of the doubt and err on the side of compassion.
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69 sats \ 0 replies \ @adlai 2 Dec
also, wouldn't the similar question be quite unpleasant if phrased about other people? compassion shouldn't be modulated by an intelligence test... it is subjective enough already, simply due to unconscious and uncontrollable biases.
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69 sats \ 0 replies \ @siggy47 OP 2 Dec
I agree
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46 sats \ 0 replies \ @Entrep 2 Dec
Intelligence isn't just problem-solving, it's about navigating complex social, emotional, and environmental worlds. Most animals are doing this already
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36 sats \ 0 replies \ @Fenix 3 Dec
I don't think we are, so some scientists have to establish a standard to determine intelligent life outside Earth, which is mastering radio transmission technology, if I'm not mistaken. So, regarding animals, we can't establish a standard; they feel and think like we do, until we know they don't have consciousness, and that's the standard, but we experience this using mirrors. That's all we have.
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36 sats \ 2 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 2 Dec
I guess in general we can use our own intelligence as a reference to study the intelligence of other species. The thing is, a lot of the time we just don’t have enough info about a certain species, so the analysis ends up super incomplete.
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33 sats \ 1 reply \ @siggy47 OP 2 Dec
But I also think we lack certain sensory capabilities and maybe the reasoning ability to evaluate them. Our mental processes only grasp concepts within our world view.
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36 sats \ 0 replies \ @0xbitcoiner 2 Dec
Yeah, that’s true. Intelligence covers a bunch of different areas, and we usually only judge it based on a few of them. Like, we know some animals use tools, and I think that’s a pretty big sign of intelligence.
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36 sats \ 0 replies \ @Angie 2 Dec
Creo que cada cual incluso los animales son inteligentes por su propia sabiduría instintiva, no me considero animal mi inteligencia depende del razonamiento, el de los animales de su instinto biológico, por ponerte un ejemplo, el proverbio 30 de la Biblia: "24 Hay cuatro cosas que, aunque están entre las más pequeñas de la tierra, son instintivamente sabias: 25 las hormigas, que no son criaturas fuertes pero preparan su alimento en el verano; 26 los damanes, que no son criaturas poderosas pero hacen sus casas en las rocas; 27 las langostas, que no tienen rey pero todas ellas avanzan en formación, 28 y el geco, que se agarra con sus pies y se cuela en el palacio del rey."
Sin embargo los imitamos,
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36 sats \ 0 replies \ @unboiled 2 Dec
I think we need to start from a more controllable, basic premise:
Can we really correctly evaluate our own species' intelligence? If yes, under which conditions?
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @SimpleStacker 2 Dec
I'm smart enough to know that four legs good two legs better
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @adlai 2 Dec
I fear the Animal Farm reference might be lost on most people. SN might not be a representative sample, although in my experience even 1984 is more familiar to most people as a memeplex than an actual book that anyone has read.
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