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198 sats \ 0 replies \ @dickerson_des 2 Feb 2023
I would pay for it to now always say "loading" for sure
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170 sats \ 0 replies \ @Wil 3 Feb 2023
Not sure why people are against paying a few thousand Sats. What do you think you were paying with before??
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107 sats \ 0 replies \ @benthecarman 2 Feb 2023
boss
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23 sats \ 1 reply \ @l0k18 2 Feb 2023
I think that the best payment model for this protocol would be a scheme where you pay for bytes/time. The node could then also notify you in-protocol of impending expiring balance to prompt a top up. When expired it would purge the data when its storage requirements dictate. The subscription could also specify a voluntary expiry age for data so old events could be purged and pay less overall but keep current stuff live.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @21millions 3 Feb 2023
I think the innovation would be using the power of micropayments. You can charge per:
- bytes/time
- bytes used for storage
- notes uploaded
- What else?🤔
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17 sats \ 1 reply \ @pi 2 Feb 2023
It's inevitable, and a positive evolution. It's important for the quality of the content, and the viability of the ecosystem
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100 sats \ 0 replies \ @l0k18 3 Feb 2023
It also is very important for scaling the network. Tor's model has led to a flatline of around 6000 relays on the internet for the last 10 years. When you can get paid to support the network, you don't have to be wealthy to provide capacity to the network.
The lack of this was my main gripe with Nostr. With this in place and various schemes for monetising relay service Nostr has a real chance of becoming a straight up internet protocol, which IMHO is essential to really have a shot at taking on the woke social media censorship and spying systems. And I'm especially excited about the idea of this bringing more people into contact with LN and starting to really make the banking and payments systems sweat.
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5 sats \ 0 replies \ @cryptocoin 3 Feb 2023
See also another post, found here on SN, with a corresponding article:
How to Setup a Paid Nostr Relay
#130468
https://andreneves.xyz/p/how-to-setup-a-paid-nostr-relay
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13 sats \ 8 replies \ @TheL0wner 2 Feb 2023
one more reason not to use it.
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17 sats \ 0 replies \ @nout 3 Feb 2023
The other option that social networks like twitter use is to pay with your soul...
Your choice.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @DaveC 3 Feb 2023
stacker news, time to add an inverted lightning bolt to remove sats from a user.
jks 🤣
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @21millions 3 Feb 2023
tip -100sat (?)
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0 sats \ 4 replies \ @l0k18 2 Feb 2023
You are volunteering to keep my backups for free then?
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0 sats \ 3 replies \ @TheL0wner 2 Feb 2023
why would I? I don't even use nostr.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @l0k18 2 Feb 2023
Good demonstration, also, of the benefits of micropayments on social networks really. Even if you pay for a relay to store your stuff doesn't mean anyone is gonna read it. But on a free platform you get to see all the cheap shots of whatever no-lifes think it's fun to rain on people's parades without actually using their brain to come up with actual reasons why it's a bad idea.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @l0k18 2 Feb 2023
Nobody would have had to read that garbage you just posted if you couldn't post on here without paying either. Sounds like a good thing to me!
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18 sats \ 0 replies \ @TheL0wner 2 Feb 2023
it actually cost me a sat.. like every post on this site... and no one has to read anything posted here.
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @victorieeman 3 Feb 2023
It's a good thing. The Incentive structure will then bring us more relays.
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0 sats \ 2 replies \ @thrown 2 Feb 2023
You should only pay for encrypted notes. The unencrypted notes are valuable to the node operator. That’s free data that they can do whatever they want with.
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0 sats \ 1 reply \ @moel 3 Feb 2023
All notes are encrypted. So this doesn’t make any sense 😢 🤔
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @thrown 3 Feb 2023
end to end encryption. It’s actually rare that a nostr client has implemented this. private DMs for example
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0 sats \ 0 replies \ @nostr 2 Feb 2023
Excellent article. thanks
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