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Videogame executive Xu Bo, said to have more than 100 children, and other elites build mega-families, testing citizenship laws and drawing on nannies, IVF and legal firms set up to help them
The market has grown so sophisticated, experts say, that at times Chinese parents have had U.S.-born children without stepping foot in the country. A thriving mini-industry of American surrogacy agencies, law firms, clinics, delivery agencies and nanny services—even to pick up the newborns from hospitals—has risen to accommodate the demand, permitting parents to ship their genetic material abroad and get a baby delivered back, at a cost of up to $200,000 per child.
The growing Asian market for international fertility services has drawn the attention of American investors, including Peter Thiel, whose family office has backed a chain of IVF clinics across Southeast Asia and a recently opened branch in Los Angeles.
Now, I'm not one to wanna resort to government restrictions on things, but this don't sit well with me. Not at all, no sir.
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88 sats \ 1 reply \ @gmd 5h
I'm surprised it only cost up to $200k. I can't imagine carrying a whole ass baby for 9 months and then saying goodbye to it for such little money...
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my guess is they prey on some pretty desperate people
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I find it ironic that most Americans are so upset by the Chinese culture of just doing what they want. Shouldn’t we be the pioneers of permissionlessness?
This particular practice is pretty wild and was not on my radar.
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I think it's the opposite actually. This practice is much more restricted and frowned upon in China, which is partly why they come to America to do it. So in a way, our permissionless society results in us being the residual claimants of behavior that is widely considered immoral/disgusting... is that what we want to be?
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The laws are stricter in China but in my experience permissionlessness is a more culturally prevalent mode of operation.
Mix that prevalence with laxer laws and you get more “outrageous” behavior.
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You're right that many Chinese culturally hold the law in lower regard than here in the US.
I wonder to what it extent it has to do with their views of the legitimacy of their own government.
Though, I think in this case of surrogacy, I wouldn't be surprised if culturally it's much more frowned upon in China than in the US. I think they still have more traditional views of family over there.
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Could just be the narcissistic entitlement of wealth that seems to transcend culture
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77 sats \ 2 replies \ @Wumbo 17h
Very interesting, Thanks for sharing.
Another wealthy Chinese executive, Wang Huiwu, hired U.S. models and others as egg donors to have 10 girls, with the aim of one day marrying them off to powerful men, according to people close to the executive’s education company.
Looks Senator Scott is here to "help"
Last month, Sen. Rick Scott, the Florida Republican, introduced a bill in the Senate to ban the use of surrogacy in the U.S. by people from some foreign countries, including China. He cited an ongoing federal human trafficking investigation into a Chinese-American couple in Los Angeles who have more than two dozen children, nearly all born through surrogacy within the past four years, as reported by the Journal.
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I'm not as libertarian as most of the people on stacker news, and more open to legislation on matters of morality and natural law, just with a very skeptical eye towards it.
That being said, it feels fundamentally wrong for people to be deliberately having children through surrogacy that they have no intention of being a part of their lives or raising.
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I don’t disagree with the sentiment but it’s being driven by poorly designed institutional incentives.
Takeaway the freebies and people will stop doing this…or they won’t and it will be their own private business.
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That's some Dune type shii
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