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Let's start with this point (I've heard it before, but never quite so clearly):

The lower you are in the wealth distribution, the larger a fraction of your wealth probably consists of real estate.

For the poorest half of Americans, the fraction is about half: typically, from people owning (or partially owning) their own homes.

A cheap house is a form of capital almost uniquely ill-suited to taking advantage of a leap in automation. It plays no part in the development, production, operation, or transportation of computer equipment, robotic equipment, training data, or energy.

With that in your mind consider the main thesis made by Philip Trammel and Dwarkesh Patel in the article:

"A global and highly progressive tax on capital (or at least capital income) will then indeed be essentially the only way to prevent inequality from growing extreme.""A global and highly progressive tax on capital (or at least capital income) will then indeed be essentially the only way to prevent inequality from growing extreme."

Without one, once AI renders capital a true substitute for labor, approximately everything will eventually belong to those who are wealthiest when the transition occurs, or their heirs. Or more precisely, it will belong to the subset of this group who save most and most invest with a view to maximizing long-run returns.

They explain that this is a twist on Thomas Piketty's argument that rich people's capital makes money faster than poor people's, and therefore the rich will tend to get richer.

They do a nice job of pointing out some major flaws in Piketty's argument.

But then they claim that Piketty might be right in the future.

It's important to note that they are making the argument in a hypothetical world of "full automation" where labor is limited only by capital (at least I think this is how they are framing it).

Given this, here's where they end up:

In short, if capital rather than labor will eventually be the primary source of income, the earth will not be inherited by those with high birthrates, contra e.g. Kaufmann (2010). It will be inherited by those who
  • start out richest;
  • are most patient (or act that way by saving a lot);
  • invest in the way that is, in the relevant sense, most Kelly-like; and
  • are most willing and able to commit to the saving and investment behavior above.

And this leads to the following not financial advice:

If you want to inherit (or want your heirs or favored philanthropic causes to inherit) a non-negligible share of the pie—that is, if you are concerned with your place in the future distribution, rather than your absolute future budget—the broad implications of this section are straightforward. While you are not among the world’s richest actors, start accumulating capital as early as possible. Get into (or start) those private firms with the AI intangibles. Invest unusually risk-tolerantly: you will probably go bust, but it is your only hope of catching up. Especially among illiquid investments, prioritize those in which the capital is mobile and not quickly bottlenecked by natural resources, if there is a risk that some shock or tax will hit the country where it is located. And if you do make it to the top, save almost everything; invest it in the precise way that balances the need to keep growing with the need to avoid going bust; and try hard to tie your hands and the hands of your inheritors.

I suspect this is good advice, but on the larger note of applying Piketty to the future, I'm skeptical.

The reason communists keep having been wrong is because these extrapolations are never realistic.

Full automation is nonsense on stilts. There will always be uses for human labor. Through the logic of comparative advantage, automation only changes what those uses will be and the prevailing wage rates.

Also, labor isn't how anyone gets rich, now or in the past (aside from a handful of athletes, I guess). Getting rich has always involved entrepreneurial discovery, which attracts capital. Overlooking the role of entrepreneurship has long been the primary Austrian criticism of the mainstream.

cc: @BlokchainB

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Communists keep having been wrong ... There will always be uses for human labor.

I think the communists have to be looked at like a broken clock, right only twice a day.

Human labor, in some form even if its simply systems management, may have some value... but the historic trend of that value is rapid decline.

We see this every time people circle jerk about wages relative to housing prices, they're kind of right other than the fact they're looking at the wrong denominator in housing.

For example, how many ounces of gold could someone have earned in a year 50 years ago vs today... the only thing declining in value faster than the dollar is labor.

From above:

capital rather than labor will eventually be the primary source of income

Not sure if we've statistically reached this point yet, but I think it's effectively the case already. A fat 401k that increases in value is the new American dream, not a paid-off house. The stock accounts for newborns are an acknowledgement of this.

In a world of increasingly complex systems, equity in those systems is more valuable than an individuals contribution.

start accumulating capital as early as possible

The article contradicts itself with this a bit, wages are already survival mode.

Getting rich has always involved entrepreneurial discovery

This is the advice they should have gave, entrepreneurial work is sweat equity in productive capacity, and really the only way to get on the ladder where wage labor won't. You need exposure to productive capacity, and individual labor is relatively unproductive.

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I always feel 5% smarter every time I read your comments on economics.

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Thank you sir

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Get into (or start) those private firms with the AI intangibles. Invest unusually risk-tolerantly: you will probably go bust, but it is your only hope of catching up.

I really hate vague advice like this. Just as bad as Saylor’s analogy he said at a keynote about a dental office getting investors and using debt to acquire bitcoin.

I often think labor is in race to zero which unfortunately takes quality with it. That why services and customer service seems to suck now. I doubt AI will solve that anytime soon.

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Yes - that bit seems like it was written for a mid twenties software engineer living in the bay area who has been trying yo get into y combinatorial for the past four years (this is also probably the primary readership of their newsletter).

Disregarding that, the useful part seems to me to be that one should stop aiming for home ownership and shoot instead for some (highly risky) bet in an emerging industry.

My biggest question here is this: leverage tied to home ownership in the US is highly subsidized. Most people can't get a loan to invest 300k in a startup as an LP, but they can get that loan to buy a house. This changes the calculus a little I think.

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True but we do have things crowd funded equity platforms that lower the barrier to entry but these are highly risky bets compared to shelter which most humans need.

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The lower you are in the wealth distribution, the larger a fraction of your wealth probably consists of real estate.

If you are in public housing on a S8 voucher, is any fraction of your wealth in real estate?

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Probably no, but their larger point seemed to be that if you aren't rich, if you have any assets, they are likely disproportionately heavy on real estate.

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Yes. I'm just asking a naughty-ish question, because I somewhat feel that this ignores the people that are underprivileged and focuses on the relatively privileged.

If the dividing line of privilege will become "those who invested in AI, and those who didn't", then the world as we know it is over, because stonks generally don't put bread on the table and the moment you sell them (or even take a loan out against them that you can only do once) you have lost your privilege.

So there must be a better way. And it's probably not finance, but skills? It's sort-of always been about skills, because those are what enable people to make the income side higher and beat the expense side: by adding value. Your kids won't get rich from inheritance because that's the first thing that will get taxed to oblivion in a world of extremes. What they cannot tax are the skills you will help them build.

And perhaps, AI - especially the current generation of GenAI - can help with attaining skills. After all, for a mere 8GB, we can already today have a local model that can tell you how to connect electrical wires, how to build software, how to service your appliances, how to mix a cocktail, how to build a foundation for a home, and so on...

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What stood out to me is how fragile this makes the idea of “working your way up.” If the future really runs on capital, not labor, then the game quietly shifts from participation to ownership and most people never even get a seat.

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I may be coming out as a commie, but I am pretty sympathetic to these arguments.

It's easy to say that people have always worried about the distributional effects of automation and that those worries have usually been overblown. While this is true, it's also true that the effects of automation have given rise to major unrest, as well as in many cases enhanced worker protections and power. We may simply be coming into a part of the cycle where that balance is once again disrupted in favor of capital.

In any case, I am much less hostile to progressive taxation (depends how you do it) than I am to government attempts to allocate resources. If the revenues raised by the progressive taxation had a straightforward and transparent way to be reallocated to the poor, without much scope for red tape or corruption, I wouldn't automatically be against it. The question, of course, is whether that level of scoping is possible, given the nature of the leviathan

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Spoiler alert: the benevolent social planner is a fairy tale.

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No.

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@remindme in 4 hours

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Hahah I was scrolling to see your response only to find this message haha

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Thanks for the follow-up reminder.

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