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Aw snap I never hit post on this lol.... Anyways below is my response.

The US and actually it was the CIA was never putting nuclear weapons in Tibet. The CIA actually refused to give or place tactical nukes for them. What we did was place nuclear powered sensors in the Himalayan Mountains to spy on China's nuclear program.

have no affiliation with China.

With how hard you blow and spread just incorrect information (like the nukes mentioned above) the Chinese owe you some serious $$$ you act just like the Chinese paid mouth pieces and so you are treated as a Chinese mouth piece regardless of ethnicity.

when the CCP swept to power after the US nuked Japan

China spent 4 more years in a civil war after the end of WWII.... Taking 4 years isnt a "sweep" at all. Plus Operation Beleaguer wasnt just a US thing the USSR participated as well so the argument doesnt hold up.

US occupation of Korea

After WWII the US occupied the South and USSR the North. Once the South Korean government was set up the US began withdrawing military personal from the country and had largely completed this by mid 1949. The UN then went back into the country in 1950 at the outbreak of the war. The USSR was in North Korea till end beginning of 1949 so if the US was a scary occupying force the same applies to the USSR.

It is beyond categorically incorrect to say that WWII never ended in Korea. I mean I dont know what to tell you besides both major powers were in the countries and both left the North and South were not fighting at the time. It was during Mao's visit to Moscow in 1950 that Stalin gave Kim the green light to invade the South starting the war. We know from declassified USSR/Russian archives that Mao came to Moscow to try and sign a new Sino-Soviet treaty of alliance. Mao wanted the return of (the still occupied by Russia to this day mind you) Outer Manchuria. This area house two critical things for the USSR, the key port of Lüshun and the China Eastern Railway which connected them to the Pacific.

These two things are critical underpins of why the North and South remain at war to this day. The new agreement between China and the USSR contained a clause that stated if either China or the USST was involved in a war in Asia the USSR would get to continue to use the port and CER (they'd get to keep it). So once China entered the war the USSR was able to keep the land they otherwise would have returned. This means Russia now doesnt want it to end because they would likely have to return it all and this is still a critical place for there Pacific Fleet.

For what China has (tons of fishing boats) and for what they want (South China Sea) they are pretty aggressive.... There are countless videos of them ramming or attempting to ram ships from other countries that they feel are in there area. These Chinese claims were taken to an International Court and China lost. China hasnt stopped though. They also use there huge fishing fleet as almost a mobile island that destroys ecosystems. Plenty in South America and Africa can attest to this crazy huge Chinese flotilla. The reason they are not more assertive or aggressive.... they dont have the capabilities but they are trying to build them. Based on what we are seeing now and the bullying they do if they can reach further and further its going to continue and escalate.

As China has started to gear up its international influence game with the Solomon Islands and Malaysian "Forest City" I think we can see cracks emerging. Then you factor in what is going on in Pakistan and those investments in the southern part of the country. With the Solomon Islands China took its first big step in deploying "police trainers" to the country and now due to the security issues in Southern Pakistan with the Chinese projects there China is pushing to be allowed to deploy "security forces" in the area to protect the thousands of Chinese workers (mind you one of the critical underlying issues is the fact that China just shipped over thousands of their people and didnt use anyone who is getting kicked out). China was fine with dolling out money but now it wants returns on its investments and is moving more and more towards military usage to ensure it.

Finally got the drywall plastering and painting finished.
I never said CIA/US put nuclear weapon into Tibet but as long as the Tibet government was allowing CIA/US to operate covert missions spying upon China from Tibet the risk of Tibet becoming a site for US nuclear weapons was real. I have a lot of sympathy for the Tibetan people and their government in exile but this is the reality of global power play dynamics- very bad if you are caught between the super powers, like Tibet, or Cuba.
So you misrepresent what I said and then extrapolate that I 'blow hard' for the Chinese side of this conflict. Well- yes I have some sympathy for China, and for the US- both are human groups full of good and bad characteristics- but the point is these two groups are now the largest most powerful human groups on the planet and they are becoming increasingly into conflict, as China challenges the near global US hegemony that has been established post Berlin Wall.
If you read Chinas history esp from Opium Wars onward, it is hard not to have some sympathy or at least understanding for their distrust of western imperialism, as it nearly destroyed their ancient culture and did force huge and brutal changes to the Chinese culture, politics and economy.
Now they have adapted to the reality of western power and are facing it demanding true self determination.
That they are in a position where they can even dream to demand that is rather unique- achieving that position has not come without huge effort and sacrifice- the size and depth of Chinese culture however has enabled this response- unlike any other nation or culture...none of whom possess the innate potential to respond in such an assertive way.
As for Korea there is stome truth in your reference to USSR and Korea and it was with USSR promise of air cover that Mao advanced on the UN/US/imperialist forces, and it was the USSR who failed to deliver air cover- but nevertheless the threat of US/UN occupation of Korea when the US did not recognise the CCP government did strengthen Maos hand by enabling the population to unite in opposition to a perceived external threat- and the USA did not want the CCP to establish in China because the CCP was not likely to be subservient to US corporate and strategic demands and requirements as the Chinese Nationalist government who fled to Taiwan were.
Yes China is starting to build the apparatus of empire because it is now the dominant global trading nation and access to trading routes is as important to China today as they were to Britain in its heyday.
USA is no longer the dominant manufacturing and trading nations- it has shifted to being a military equipment exporter and provider of fiat debt funding (death and debt are the main exports of USA today) )via its petrodollar hegemony over the tertiary trade protocols and institutions such as World Bank, IMF, BIS and SWIFT. China is building its own independent institutions and protocols in a clear strategy to be free of US institutional dominance.
For me living in New Zealand this is hugely interesting as most of our trade in manufactured goods and commodities is now with China- China pays the best price for meat and wool and butter and cheese- just as the UK once did when we were a British colony.
The implications for New Zealand and many other western democracies are huge and complex.
As the USA now appears to be positioning itself away from its post WW2 role as global leader to a more regional and isolationist hegemony, Europe and other US traditional allies who now often also trade more with China than the US are considering their options.
Dominance in trade has always gone with dominance in trade infrastructure and security (banking, shipping, logistics and military power projection) - so many nations could shift their trade payments to Chinese ones and if this happens then the US hegemony over the global monetary and trade payments system could end- loss of its extraordinary privilege would make USA swiftly insolvent.
For now the USA retains its legacy dominance over the tertiary structure of trade and trade payments- but that dominance is not likely to remain long term if Chinas increasing economic dominance continues.
It is possible the transition could be relatively peaceful, but also probable it will not be.
Already we have conflicts in the middle east and eastern Europe, and growing tensions across the Pacific. We have Trump claiming that Latin America will be controlled by USA.
We have a growing breakdown in the alliances like NATO as USA Trump also demands Greenland.
Some of this is theatrical and some of it is real. Trump is a master of slight of hand and distraction- the majority of US citizens do not seem to even be aware they are already involving in a contest for global hegemony with China.

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