Uhhhh does this mean that the cartels are about to FAFO? It’s caught everyone I have talked to up here off guard big time.
This ban INCLUDED medivacs and police helicopters.
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Uhhhh does this mean that the cartels are about to FAFO? It’s caught everyone I have talked to up here off guard big time.
This ban INCLUDED medivacs and police helicopters.
So I have found more info I wanted to share. This is believed to be tied to the Pentagon’s use of counter-drone technology to address Mexican drug cartels’ use of drones along the U.S.-Mexico border. More importantly unlike many NOTAM's airlines are cleared to fly over the space if they are flying ABOVE 18,000 ft. Allowing airlines to still cross the airspace if they are flying this high would track if there is something going on with drone tech.
The airport is only 12 miles from Juarez, Mexico so 10 miles likely places it not only at the boarder but also were the US would have firm control of the airspace. They can't really ban Mexico from doing things in its country.... well at least legally speaking.
• The FAA classified the zone as “NTL DEFENSE AIRSPACE”. This is framed as a national defense action, not routine aviation management.
• A 10-day, ground-to-~17,000 ft shutdown of a major U.S. metro airport has no modern precedent outside 9/11-era emergency measures.
• The restriction reportedly grounds all aircraft, including military, medevac, and law enforcement , not just commercial flights.
• A sitting member of Congress says there is “no imminent threat” to the community despite the sweeping restriction.
• Airline sources believe the halt is tied to Pentagon counter-drone operations targeting cartel drone activity along the border.
• If accurate, that means border drone warfare is now disruptive enough to ground a major U.S. airport, and the public explanation is essentially “trust us.”
So not sure if you are aware but drone's have for years now been disruptive enough. Airports across the world have had issues with drones almost hitting planes and the tech we have to disable them messes with frequencies.... taking off and landing planes is HEAVILY dependent on that so that is just asking for an accident to happen.
While the 10 day NATOM was overkill and leads me to wonder if they are going to set up more permeant anti drone tech shutting down the air space was easily the smartest and safest measure to make. It just should have been temporary and I am sure since DOW and FAA have already begun talking about the incident (which included multiple drones mind you) we will see what happened and what counter measure were taken.
The presumption of regularity is out the window with this administration. The best interest of civilians is not a priority for them in this situation.
Bold claim without any evidence but whatever makes you feel good about yourself. Clearly open borders were much safer and drugs were not to bad
Courts are now saying it out loud: the presumption of regularity may not apply.
— Paul L. Friedman — Federal Education Association v. Trump
So in this situation, transparency is reduced, not increased.
What evidence would restore that presumption for you?
I’m guessing that really messed up some travel plans. El Paso isn’t exactly close to anywhere else that has a big airport.
Now that it is lifted I expect it will only be today maybe tomorrow that the travel is a little wonky. Airport personal have to report to the airport even during a NOTAM so its only the passengers that are affected
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Not exactly inspiring confidence here...
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https://twiiit.com/sentdefender/status/2021590367838064780
Well they downed drones which means they hijacked the frequency and that is super super dangerous for landing and taking off commercial plans.
Like I posted to someone below a 10 day shouldnt have been issued they should have gone with a TTP I believe it is called.
https://twiiit.com/FAANews/status/2021583720465969421
10 Nautical Miles does not seem like a large region, if this is for a future military action.
I mean it takes out an international airport that had 3.5 million go through it last year. It’s the unexpected no heads up about it that’s significant. This hasn’t happened in modern aviation history
In a highly highly speculative context since the cartels do not have a ton of air power exactly so in theory this could be done to prevent the airport from being a juicy easy target for small arms fire
Or they were moving some secretive equipment out of Ft. Bliss (1st Armored Division)
This incident raises questions about readiness and coordination. The swift disabling of the drones by the Department of Defense is commendable, but what stands out is the absence of clear and timely communication to local officials, airport operators, and the public. When the Representative calls the move unprecedented, she is essentially pointing to a gap in the decision making chain. That gap, in a region so close to an international border and operating alongside military airfields, is not simply a procedural hiccup.
There are two broader issues to take from this. First, the role of drones in cross-border smuggling and surveillance is expanding, and that means these kinds of incursions will likely rise in frequency unless there is a coordinated deterrence and detection framework that keeps both military and civilian aviation safe. Second, when operational secrecy forces agencies to limit disclosure, there still must be a structure to give those directly impacted enough information to respond without unnecessary disruption.