If you want the cleanest signal from Jeremy Carl's confirmation hearing, don't start with tweets.

Start with this exchange.

Pressed to define "white culture," Carl didn't cite constitutional principles, legal traditions, or philosophical heritage.

He cited church aesthetics, saying "the white church is very different than the Black church" and that "music could be different."

That's not policy analysis. That's racialized worship framing.

When Sen. Murphy followed up, "So our ability to access white churches or white music is being erased?", the claim visibly collapsed. No statute. No federal action. No measurable deprivation. Just grievance language.

This matters because the job in question isn't a podcast seat. It's Assistant Secretary for International Organizations. The portfolio that interfaces with the UN system and multilateral institutions.

If your definition of cultural harm centers on contrasting "white church" and "Black church" music styles, that's not just rhetoric. It's worldview.

And worldview is exactly what confirmation hearings are meant to test.

Carl's nomination has faced GOP opposition over his remarks, with the official nomination still pending Senate action.