I'm asking as I have a number of small, post-coinjoin utxos sitting around. Not a lot... but with fees at 1 sat/vbyte why shouldn't I use them? It would generate on-chain usage, and if a post is really good anyway maybe they should get 2-3k sats?
Thought I would ask.
The other issue is... length. Would it be possible to charge more for longer posts? Right now, at least signed in, short posts on a given territory 'cost' as much as really long ones.
I am not dunking on any individual user, everyone is entitled to their opinion. But the current system means either muting certain users of a very repetitive type of use...
OR having other users downzap them. Which I don't think is fair to those users, to have to 'pay' just to downzap other users to hide what they are posting and it's not sustainable anyway.
If it were possible to vary the fee beyond a certain number of characters, then VERY long copy-pasta type posts of a repetitive nature would cost more. People would be free to spam them... but just like spam on the blockchain the 'more you make' the more it costs.
Just my 2 sats thanks!
Pay per length is an interesting idea, but it might make things more complicated...and SN already has a lot if variability in posting fees. Also I tend to enjoy long posts that people put a lot of effort in to. Feels sad if they have to pay more.
But I think there is something interesting there in the analogy with blockspace.
It hasn't been necessary up until now and probably won't be for some time. However I can already see the potential for excessive spam and paying more beyond a certain length is an interesting idea.
I frankly find that my best posts, to which I get the greatest response, are shorter. Being space-constrained is a really good thing (what they taught us in high-school English).
If i need lots of space to say something important I'll pay for it but I'm not sure it should be always free.
The reason I am repeatedly posting the same comments is because nobody has responded to them in a credible retort.
They cover what I believe are important issues that a small minority seem determined to avoid addressing.
It would be a tragedy to introduce cost on detail and depth and reduce SNs further down the trend of inane memes, abuse and trolling that already exists.
See @DarthCoins comments for examples of what I mean and he is far from alone in making responses that lack credible reasoned debate but instead seek to debase the narrative into blatant trolling abuse.
My suggestion was about having a 'limit' to the size of posts. Smaller tighter more efficient posts are usually better anyway? And beyond that length the space is available but comes at a premium just my 2 sats. The SN guys will decide they have done an amazing job so far.
If you don't like the size of a post don't read it- ignore it...keep scrolling.
But do not try to put a disincentive/tax on people who provide detailed in depth and thoughtful content.
The volume of low value low content low effort posts and comments has to be one of the worst features of SNs already...and you want to encourage more of it?
It’s possible. We could do a swap to Lightning. That’d probably work today if our invoices had longer expirations.
I don't know which swap services... will swap a utxo under 25k sats. I once sent CoinOS a small on-chain utxo and then withdrew it as lightning... but that's rare.
Nowdays I keep small (2-3k) utxos around to tip or donate to non-profits, i think of it like a 'tip cup' somewhere... but it would be nice to do something more.
Thanks!
With L1 fees very low it is a great time to move sats from your L1 wallet/s to your attached L2 Lightning wallet.
I did so today at very minimal cost.
Guns loaded and blazing- no need for any more changes to the SN fees structures or censorship thresholds- you 'Libertarians' are looking more like statists and corporate lobbyists seeking constantly to change the rules to suit your own agenda and disadvantage others.
Increasing fees on longer posts would discourage in depth reasoned debate and encourage more banal memes and snarky trolling- and there is surely already enough of that.
or 3) you really want a response.
So 3:
I have used multiple non-custodial lightning nodes, I much rather pay from them, and frankly I use them regularly outside of stacker news.
I don't want to 'attach a sending wallet' from CoinOS as much as I like it... I rather pick up my phone, zero in on the QR code and scan it. Or take a few CCs from my SN wallet and use those if I have them. If I don't have CCs just use the QR code to buy some.
Or I manually copy and paste an invoice into CoinOS, or Cashu wallet or any number of wallets. It's possible to swap from liquid to lightning pretty cheap for goodness sake.
You mention guns... ever shot one? Do New Zealanders have them?
The physical, visceral feedback from zapping is a little like that, automating it would make it less fun even though it "is" more efficient. My phone vibrates when I zap, I see a bunch of numbers change... THAT's fun way more than having it on auto-pay.
I hope that answers your question (provided it's # 3 if it's not then :D )
Trolling is attacks on people devoid of reasoned response to what they are saying.
I am not doing that. You are by claiming I am unstable. I am simply standing up to say what I think and pointing out the hypocrisy of people who claim they are Bitcoiners but whose actions here do not match their rhetoric. How does believing in being consistent in your words and actions (ie not being a hypocrit) unstable?
Do you think hypocrisy is normal- perhaps in your mind it is?
You choose not to show whether you ever zap with sats- that is your choice and you know making that choice that you are not verifying that you ever use sats- you know that you are verifying that you probably dont and mostly use CC by default.
You are blatantly disingenuous in you post claiming you are not targeting me- you are dishonest and have ulterior motives- you have admitted as much yourself.
You admit that you deliberately use CCs and thus do not maximise your use of the LN to transact here on SNs- as a person who claims we need to use LN and BTC more how does that match with your actions? It doesn't!
If we want to grow the LN stronger SNs is an ideal place to do it- by using LN to the maximum extent possible when we are here- and the most effective way of doing that is by attaching both sending and receiving wallet- but you despite your rhetoric do not match you words with your actions and just do it.
No this whole situation is really goofy.
Stacker News is arguably the coolest place on the internet for Bitcoin... let's be nice to each other OK? Thanks
So why dont you want to attach and show an attached wallet?
I can assure you automatically zapping with sats at the maximum possible rate is very satisfying as is showing all other users, the vast majority who have also attached and shown their attached wallets, that you have reciprocated that effort and that we are all in this together in terms of using LN/sats to the maximum extent possible and building a real circular V4V sats denominated space.
You are not doing that.
Why?
You are a smart guy and Bitcoin is ultimately about integrity... so I will try to answer.
Some of the anon posts on this platform... are mine.
As a matter of fact, I don't always spend from the same Lightning wallet, I think it's more private not to.
And most of all I don't know anything about NWC Nostr Wallet Connect. I'm not saying I have any issue with it... but frankly I don't trust everything Nostr. I haven't 'connected' a wallet to Nostr either - I would feel OK with receiving to a Nostr-derived public key (in fact this is necessary) but not sending from it.
It would feel like 'connecting a wallet' to facebook or social media which is just weird I don't fully trust it. I much rather pay via QR or with more "distance" between my wallet and a website that I don't fully understand. To be honest I don't fully 100% trust CoinOS either... sometimes their Lightning connectivity leaves something to be desired and I don't know they don't improve this.
I hope this answers your questions.
It is a question of priorities.
I use coinos and it does require some trust.
I also connect my coinos wallet to SNs which requires a small amount of trust in SNs and Coinos.
But you do not leave a lot of sats on Coinos.
I just sent then there from my L1 wallet/s when I need to.
So it is a question of priorities.
I want to use LN as much as possible- as you said SNs is a coolplace to be and use Bitcoin and hear different BTC centric views. I have easily gained news and knowledge of value greater than all the sats I have spent.
The vast majority of SNs regular and serious users have attached and shown their attached LN wallet because it is important we see that we are walking the talk.
A small group are stubbornly not doing that.
I can only conclude their words (and yours) are not matched by equal conviction and commitment.
I do not see any credible risk to attaching and using coinos to enable maximising your use of sats and LN and helping in a real way to strengthen the LN and SNs.
You just keep a small balance on coinos.
There's is so much talk in Bitcoin circles but a large and dangerous amount of hypocrisy.
I do not understand why someone uses multiple anon accounts - surely one genuine account where you speak your mind, show you have attached wallets and are serious about the V4V BTC LN SNs project and it can be identified and associated with all you have said previously imposes a higher degree of consistency and honesty than running multiple accounts and hiding who you are.
Perhaps people who are not up front and honest struggle to understand the truth when it is presented. Deception of others only ends up creating a fog around yourself.
Oh and yes coinos occasionally does not work- but the more we use it it gets stronger.
The same with the LN.
If you want 100% reliability then like @DarthCoin just use CCs.
Why don't you attach a sending wallet?
By attaching a sending wallet you maximise your use of the LN and sats and minimise the amount of CC shitcoins circulating.
You are not doing this as you do not have a sending wallet attached.
Or are you just here for arsemilking?
All take and no give?
Silence.
Charging more for longer comments or posts is absurd- you are saying someone who put more thought and effort in should pay more to have their say.
BTW I am currently sending more sats into the SNs economy than any others content provider so if you don't like it tell me instead of sly but obvious attempts to get changes to the rules yet again.