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We can no longer pretend Protonmail is safe, even if that was to be assumed before. They've crossed the point of no return. Do not ever recommend them to anyone.

226 sats \ 2 replies \ @anon 3h

If you're paying for a mailbox with a credit card, to then run a facebook group, to then have a big mouth and think you're untouchable ...

... then you deserve to get caught, because you're a dumb little fuck and you needed this lesson to get back to reality.

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107 sats \ 0 replies \ @kepford 3h

Really bad opsec. There are no perfect tools. You have to know how you are exposed and where you can't trust third parties.

You enter a credit card into a web site. You are screwed in most cases.

Like all companies including Stacker.news. The police come, you hand stuff over to them. Grownups realize that they are inheritly trusting companeis. The thing to look for is when the company makes it so they don't have much of value to turn over.

Bottom line, it's up to you. No company is gonna go to prison for you. If you are dumb, you're gonna pay the dumb tax

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Pay with redotpay and not your real credit card to avoid any inconvenience

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233 sats \ 0 replies \ @anon 3h

Did you read the article? The guy doxed himself with payment data

Proton is open and transparent about the data they share

Proton does not protect dumb criminals

It's not hard to use proton safely but it does require some very basic and obvious protection measures (vpn, generic subject, anonymous payment etc)

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154 sats \ 6 replies \ @kristapsk 3h

If you want to stay private, pay with Bitcoin, not credit card.

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10 sats \ 5 replies \ @unboiled 1h

It's not as simple as that.

Lots of ways to give away your identity when paying with Bitcoin. Only very few ways not to.

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Yes, but in any case it's more private than credit cards, even if not used properly.

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I disagree.

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10 sats \ 2 replies \ @kristapsk 1h

How so? How can credit cards be more private than poorly used Bitcoin if there is literally your name and surname sent to the merchant?

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10 sats \ 1 reply \ @unboiled 56m -100 sats

Both name and surname are connected to your centralized exchange.

If you want to insist that potential layer of indirection makes any tangible difference, then you are arguing semantics, not realities.
Besides, your merchant most likely captured your name and surname during the payment process too.

In either case, stating that paying with Bitcoin let's you stay private is just blatantly false.

202 sats \ 1 reply \ @kepford 3h

Fully comprised? Yeah... I don't think so. Adjust your expectations. Clearly this guy had the same delusion.

Privacy-focused email provider Proton Mail provided Swiss authorities with payment data that the FBI then used to determine who was allegedly behind an anonymous account affiliated with the Stop Cop City movement in Atlanta, according to a court record reviewed by 404 Media.

Proton is a company. They provide a good service. They will not protect you when the cops come knocking. Anything they have on you they will turn over. This is not new. It's not a reason to not use them. It's something to be aware of.

There are much more private ways this person could have used their service.

If you think anyone is gonna go to prison to protect your privacy... you are gonna have a rough time of it.

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Are you a Libertarian?

Do you think the FBI should have the power to demand data from Swiss companies?

What if it was Chinese government agency that wanted this data?

Is the USA somehow exempt from any restrictions on state power projection?

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Have always wondered how truly private and secure proton are.

They look like a gmail clone and I suspect are just a front for US state surveillance.

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