As an Iranian, I will explain why war was our only way out.
The Islamic regime's founder, Ayatollah Khomeini, has long called for Israel's destruction. Since my childhood, we were forced to chant "Death to America" and "Death to Israel" daily in school. The regime has funded proxy groups to attack Israelis and Americans, even the civilians of these countries - among others.
We Iranians have exhausted every peaceful option to change this. We elected supposed "moderates" as president, hoping for reform and an end to threats against our own people and the world. Those hopes were shattered as their foreign interventions, proxy wars, and deaths continued. They didn't change even one bit.
We protested peacefully. Repeatedly. And each time, met with bullets. Democrats' policy of negotiation and appeasement only gave it more wiggle room and provided the regime with a lifeline, costing more lives globally and in Iran.
The regime had countless chances to de-escalate and listen to its critics (I mean, us, Iranian people). Instead, it pursued decades of hostility, chanting for war while draining our resources. Now that the conflict has arrived, it blames protesters and the world for it.
We never wanted war. But after the regime massacred thousands of defenseless protestors, including children and the elderly, we had one last hope to resort to: asking for military intervention. It's not a war, it is a rescue operation. People and powers worldwide are uniting against this evil regime.
By this reasoning, it will take a war to put an end to America's war machine, since Americans vote for the peace candidate almost every time and only ever get more war.
What would happen if they voted for the war candidate instead?
Bush's 2nd term
So... Basically the same?
But with more accurate advertising
The pretend peace candidate
They're all pretend
This is how 90% Americans think and feel the neocons and uniparty constantly find votes to fund trillion dollar war budgets but fight over nickels and dimes when it comes to other government programs.
This war is an absolute joke. The British should help Iran with their revolution not American soldiers.
Why the British? their love affair with Arabs will only hurt them in Iran
Lawrence of Arabia helped Arabia not Persia
You do realize that you enjoy the comforts of your western lifestyle due to the existence of this war machine, yes? The war machine didn't arise following the petrodollar establishment, nor in the aftermath of WW2 - it's been around since time immemorial. The very land the house you live in was built on was violently seized by European invaders sent as agents by an imperial war machine, from natives who themselves were heavily enmeshed in a warrior culture
Nothing about that means I'm obliged to want it to continue or that the world is better because of it.
US power wealth and petrodollar hegemony are based upon its ability to project military aggression.
The infantile idea that USA is a great capitalist state is nonsense- USA is today a rogue state led by Trump and his oligarchs repeatedly breaking international law to promote and preserve its global resource hegemony - because it cannot compete with Chinas industrial productive capacity.
New Zealand started it.
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I mean look who really thought with Trumps track record he was a peace candidate? He literally blew one of Irans most senior and critical generals to pieces. He tripled the strikes in Yemen and Somalia like he wasn’t to peaceful.
What he did and has done is not put or keep boots on the ground. Under Trump though air strikes are a huge thing. I don’t think anyone saw Biden as a peace candidate and Obama ran on “Change” what that was turns out to be reporter en chief. Clinton and Reagan they didn’t run on peace platforms at all.
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All of this analysis overlooks a simple fact. America helped to make the '78 mess that became the Ayatollah. It is being allowed, in this case, to undo that damage. The rest of everyone here that thinks no war has raged in the background since then are privileged, snotty little whiners who have some reality bubble that does not coincide to the past 47 years.
I don't really care that you, an Iranian presumably outside of Iran, are happy that the US has started this war.
I, as a US citizen, voted (so I thought, looks like I was deceived) for no new forever wars. No regime change. This war has no up-side and just huge downsides for the US and the whole world, not to mention the risk of WWIII
How about YOU go over there, and spend YOUR money rescuing YOUR country.
And not ask Americans to fight and die for you, and our Israeli overlords.
I didn't realize anything over 48 hours is 'forever'
Regime change is different from 'forever war' especially if it can happen quickly like Maduro in Venezuela
risk of WW3? how so? who is going to intervene? Spain tried to impede USA, stupid fucking parasitic NATO 'ally'... fuck Spain, I hope the entire left wing party leaders in Spain get gang raped by Muslim migrants
PREACH!!!! I am beyond shocked at people on SN not realizing that Iran has tried to carry out assassinations in the U.S. not just against Trump but literally Iranian activists in the U.S. How Iran has fueled the proxy wars and how the Houthis literally were nuking international shipping and that hits the U.S.
Iranian proxies have killed US personal (troops and contractors both) in the last few years. I’d assume they would want peace in the Middle East after all that’s good for the world but they seem possessed with letting the chaos linger and scream it doesn’t affect us because it doesn’t touch the mainland. Trade, citizens aboard, these people seem to scream fuck em.
USA CREATED the Theocracy that now exists in Iran.
Similar to the reactionary Taliban that US (and earlier USSR) attacks on Afghanistan created.
USA expert in creating enemies.
USA will be bogged down in Iran for a long time and will not achieve regime change.
The US empire is on its last legs- USA cannot produce the missiles required to win and does not have the rare earths supply required to build more.
USA only has 800 Tomahawks left in the middle east...you cannot build anymore without rare earths and Chinas supply chains.
US war crimes empire is in terminal decline.
Downzap the truth all you like you cannot refute it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMA3tnoe7es
USA CREATED the Theocracy that now exists in Iran.
Similar to the reactionary Taliban that US (and earlier USSR) attacks on Afghanistan created.
USA expert in creating enemies.
USA will be bogged down in Iran for a long time and will not achieve regime change.
The US empire is on its last legs- USA cannot produce the missiles required to win and does not have the rare earths supply required to build more.
USA only has 800 Tomahawks left in the middle east...you cannot build anymore without rare earths and Chinas supply chains.
US war crimes empire is in terminal decline.
Forever wars go hand in hand with boots on the group and frankly that’s not the case. Could that change? Yep but right now a week in that’s just not accurate. Libya was not a forever war but we bombed the hell out of them for a while same with Yemen. No boots just air strikes.
You clearly are missing that Iran has for decades resulted in asymmetrical warfare towards the U.S. You know in the 90’s and early 2000’s we actually got along pretty well with them but the moved to nuclear weapons. We already saw this play out with Pakistan and India two countries who hated each other but had them and you really think allowing them the only Shia country nukes wouldn’t cause the Sunni’s to go all in? Then you have 5+ more nuclear countries.
Libya, Syria, Iraq all were clear evidence that the U.S. could prevent nukes. We blew there facilities to hell but guess what they were trying to rebuild them they had even said so.
They threatened US and world trade with their support for the Houthi’s who attacked and killed civilians with no reason to. They claimed they were attacking Israeli ships, companies, or ships going to Israeli and only one of the three they hit and killed people with had any sort of tie to Israel the others… regular people.
You cannot simplify this war in the ways you want to. Even the time stamp of events highlight the U.S. needed to act. Israel was going to strike they gave us a heads up what do you think Iran would have done if it was only Israel? They would have attacked everything. Iran would have more ballistic and drones able to attack because 20 minutes after the Israeli strikes it’s when we hit there launch, Air Force, and Naval capabilities.
Think critically look at the whole thing hell Saudi backed the strikes and lobbied Trump for them. There is a critical reason why you are not seeing the Gulf States react against the US because Iran has been a terror and leading destabilizing force. The modern lethal maiming IED is literally credited to them. They have killed and injured thousands of American troops in the last 26 years.
Don’t forget about the Beirut Embassy and later the Beirut peace keeping force bombing. We hadn’t done anything to them and they killed our people.
More fedslop nonsense. Hopefully more and more people will see through this kind of government propaganda.
Remember - Truth is the first casualty of war.
For real news check out some alternative sources. One of my favorites now is Judge Napolitano - Judging Freedom YouTube channel. He's a pro-freedom guy with a lot of ex military/intelligence contacts that he interviews. Also Clint Russel with Liberty Lockdown.
Hugely influential Charlie Kirk (who basically got Trump elected this term) was killed last September. Indications is that it's NOT the current narrative (that he was killed by a trans activist) but that instead, that the assassination was organized by pro-Israeli forces, and orchestrated by Bibi Netanyahu, the Israeli Prime Minister.
I'll write up a post on this shortly, but there's all kinds of clips showing Charlie Kirk talking about why we shouldn't wage war with Iran
He had been a huge pro Zionist, but was changing his mind over the last year of his life. No wonder they had him assassinated.
If you want more info on the Charlie Kirk assassination, the Baron Coleman Podcast is a great one. Very in depth coverage of all the angles, and the whole setup.
Trump is a war criminal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ql24Z8SIeE
America is desperate as its empire is collapsing.
It has attacked and destroyed Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan.
Now it is attacking Iran.
Because USA is no longer a productive economy.
It cannot make things efficiently.
China has won the trade war.
There is massive inequity in the USA.
It is an empire in decline- desperately lashing out to try and preserve its petrodollar hegemony.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ql24Z8SIeE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rIgZD-tk3s
This war is ALL about retaining global US hegemony.
It is part of WW3 and protecting your Jewish fiat debt slavery banker overlords who do not control China and its growing trade and trade payments network.
It is about subjugating one of the few nations on earth to have rejected US hegemony.
It is about USA using its still dominant military power to maintain its economic advantage over China when China has developed an economy stronger and more productive than the USA.
The wealth of nations is significantly aligned with their power projection capability and the USA under Trump is determined to crush all Chinese proxies and maintain USA global hegemony.
It's not about liberating Iranians, its about enslaving them to the US empire.
plebslop all the way; blue bullies convinced dumbasses to recruit red bullies to stabilize & normalize bullying; of course, the function of a psyop is to convince a man that there is no other option;
Some Iranians will surrender their sovereignty and dignity to be another puppet state servile to and dominated by the USA.
They are only human, seeking short term ease and economic gains at the expense of independence and self determination.
USA seeks to perpetuate its global petrodollar fiat debt slavery hegemony and some Iranian citizens are prepared to bow to that pressure.
They will be slaves.
The price of freedom is as always is the determination to fight for it or die for it.
It's a lot more than "some." The Iranian population is more pro-US than the US itself.
Prove it.
Where is the uprising?
Silence.
Two more weeks.
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LMAO delusional US 'Libertarians' cheering on Trumps war crimes.
Britain split Persia into Iran and Iraq to enable hegemony over these lands.
The nation state boundaries of the middle east and Africa were drawn up by the colonial powers in Europe over hundreds of years.
When the centre of western power moved from Britain to the US after WW2 the US and Britain installed the shah as their puppet to enable continued extraction of Irans vast oil reserves by Britan and US oil companies.
Today USA shows zero regard for international law as it seeks to perpetuate its global petrodollar based hegemony.
China has won the trade war- all nations much now trade with China or lose significiant economic advantage but USA is seeking to perpetuate its wealth and privilege through brute force and unlawful military aggression against any nation that does not show subservience to the USA.
The wealth of nation is to a large extent determined by their power projection capability.
"Free trade' 'democracy' are just words used to cover the brute force power projection of the USA and its disregard for the rights of all other people to determine their own destiny.
Trumps current invasion of Iran and Venezuela is a new era of colonialism where USA seeks to preserve its dominance via military force despite China economy beating the US on productive capacity and efficiency.
What you are describing is the experience of people who tried every peaceful avenue and kept getting answered with prisons funerals and graves instead of reforms. It is important that this reality is spoken clearly because from the outside a lot of the world still thinks in abstractions when they talk about Iran. Geopolitics. Nuclear programs. Sanctions. Deals. They forget there are actual human beings trapped between a theocratic state and a cynical international system that has learned to live with that state.
You are naming something that many in the West do not want to confront. The same governments that preach human rights kept extending lifelines to a regime that was shooting teenagers in the streets. The same commentators who fear instability were asking Iranians to be patient while people were being executed for a strand of hair or a chant in the wrong direction. You are right to call out that contradiction.
There is a hard truth here. When a regime has demonstrated over decades that it will not reform that it will meet ballots with disqualification and bullets protest with massacre and negotiation with more hostage taking and proxy wars the menu of options left to ordinary citizens shrinks. Not in some abstract academic sense but in a very real life or death sense. People reach a point where they do not ask Is intervention neat or clean. They ask Is there any path that does not end with my generation and my childrens generation crushed.
It is also worth saying this because it often gets lost. Wanting external help to break the machinery of repression is not the same thing as loving war. It is not bloodlust. It is desperation. It is what happens when you have watched the regime export violence for decades and then import that same violence onto your streets whenever you raise your voice. When you call it a rescue operation you are saying You cannot leave us alone with these people forever and still claim moral credibility.
At the same time anyone who talks seriously about intervention has to be honest about the costs. War is not a movie and foreign powers do not act out of pure altruism. There is always a risk that a just cause gets entangled with ugly interests. There is always a risk that the people suffer twice once under dictatorship and again under bombs and chaos. That is why it is important that Iranian voices like yours keep insisting on the core point. This is not about swapping one dictator for another not about carving up the country for someone elses game. It has to be about the right of Iranians to live without a state that treats them as hostages.
What you wrote also exposes another layer. For decades the regime has claimed to speak for the oppressed of the world while turning its own people into the most oppressed. It chants about liberating Palestinians while jailing Iranian women for showing their hair. It shouts about justice abroad while massacring young men and women at home. Your testimony cuts through that propaganda. It reminds anyone paying attention that the first victims of the Islamic Republic are Iranians themselves.
So your plea matters. It is not only a political argument. It is a moral record. It tells the world that if they choose once again to normalize this regime they cannot pretend they did not know. They cannot tell themselves that Iranians were silent or that no one asked for solidarity. You are putting the choice in front of them. Stand with a people who have bled for basic dignity or keep shaking hands with the men who ordered the shooting.
Whatever happens next the story you are telling needs to be written and repeated. Because if there is any hope of a future Iran that is free and at peace with its neighbors and with itself it will be built on the clarity that you are expressing now. No more illusions about moderate veneers. No more excuses about strategic patience. Just a simple demand. Let Iranians live without fear in their own country.
And the rest of us have to decide if we are willing to treat that demand as something more than a slogan.