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When you don't have sound principles. When you aren't based in something sound and unchanging that isn't situational it is easy to drift.

Today I was reminded of just how much drifting the Republican party has seen since Donald Trump first ran for office. Today, the majority of his allies in DC that were around when he first hit the stage were against him. They were against him for good reasons. He seemed to oppose their agendas. He was an outsider.

At first it seemed like most of them jumped on the Trump train out of expiediance. Today, it seems more like a co-opting of Trump more than a shift in the party. At least in foreign policy it seems like the old neocon goals are back in play. It's the same but different man!

I dunno. I have a hard time taking people serious. People that supported Bush and hated Trump but not support Trump. If you are a Trump supporter how do you feel about Lindsey Graham, Ted Cruz, and Mark Levin being tickled about your guys war?

Trump's been extremely consistent on this

The most important way to know it's on the right track is how the TDS people are in a full rage

Sure, neocons would love this to be a multi decade boondoggle, but that's not going to happen... And why it's good trump is ripping off the bandaid so they never get that chance

There's not been a single ounce of logic to the butthurt over it, just Libertarian jestergooning for shitlibs in hopes the Bolsheviks will keep them as pets

Can anyone give a single gripe other than "war is bad" virtue signaling? Seems impossible, zero logic, just feels.

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Libertarian jestergooning for shitlibs in hopes the Bolsheviks will keep them as pets

Truth, libertarians are effete and insufferable cucks who bask in 'neutrality'

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I can assure you this. I do not care what the libs think. They are even worse.

but that's not going to happen...

Forgive me if I don't beleive Trump or you. I pray I'm wrong. He might stop the bombing but that doesn't mean Iran will or their networks of loyal fighters will.

Yeah, Trump is a realist and I prefer that to the ideological savior complex nation building of the Bush Obama era, but this is still going to stir up young men to kill more Americans.

zero logic, just feels

Its easy to mock progressives. They aren't that bright. But it sure seems like Trump is not some master planner. Unlike many I don't wish for him to fail. I hope I'm dead wrong. If I am I will happily admit it. I know there is a massive amount I don't know. But what we witnes is not confidence inducing.

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Trump is not some master planner.

He's not where he is by accident. His installation alone demonstrates extremely high-level planning and co-ordination in a fog of warring factions.

As far as literal war planning goes, that's an apparatus far larger than him. It's always possible he got swindled, but still better him to deal with that than a puppet like Bush Jr. to deal with it.

The reality that Bolshevik pets like #1449549 don't get is that there are no good options when cleaning up mess that's built up for 50 or more years (we can really go back 80-100+ to to everything that lead up to the petro dollar, not just Iran)

Optimistically waiting to see what happens is the anti-war position, because this war isn't new... hell my own dad was shot at in Hormuz before I was even born.

The bankers that Bitcoiners claim to fight? They're the ones biggest mad about what's going on, that's the signal.

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Sure, neocons would love this to be a multi decade boondoggle, but that's not going to happen..

So you think they WANT a boondoggle? The Neocons are / were idealists. They thought they could make nations into democracies by bombing their way to freedom. I don't think the goal was what they got. Don't get me wrong, the military industries probably love it.

I just don't think the US can end this war. You have way more trust borders on blind trust to me.

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The Lindsay Graham's of the world absolutely want a boondoggle, the same people that turn on Trump at every opportunity. It's huge business.

There's also the European financial apparatus that wants failure, so they have this geological lever over oil and maritime insurance

Bombing the hostiles isn't to make them like us, but to degrade their leverage. Turn enough leaders into mist eventually you'll get one you can work with. Iran isn't a monolith anymore than the US is, seems more are happy Khomeini got taken out than were mad. He wasn't popular.

Taking out their ability to fight trickles down to Lebanon Yemen and more. I absolutely trust the .mils ability to kill anyone hostile if they're allowed to, unlike the pussyfooting they were forced into during the GWOT

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Turn enough leaders into mist eventually you'll get one you can work with.

I've seen no evidence of this. And if it did work... its regime change. Just a novel method.

This is the exactly the kind of word salad logic that the admin and it's cheerleaders use to keep the republican voters from bolting. Sounds like bullshit wishful thinking to me. Reminds me of the "they will welcome us as liberators" nonsense. These bombings are likely creating a new generation that will hate America. How would Americans respond to a foreign power bombing DC with Joe Biden at the helm. Do you think they'd want to be friends? It makes no sense.

Iran isn't a monolith anymore than the US is.

100% but bombing also kills innocent people.

Like I said, if I'm wrong I will not be angry. I hope I am.

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They win no matter what. No boondoggle = claim moral victory and move on to the next project. Boondoggle = billions of dollars for the next decade for you and your buddies

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#complicatedthots

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Lindsay Graham is a fag neocon, fuck that guy

Ted Cruz's career as senator is over, this will be his last term

Mark Levin has lost all credibility regarding Israel and Christian Zionism

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1 sat \ 1 reply \ @kepford OP 19h -11 sats

You still have one of Levin's videos posted on my bio. Thought you were a fan.... he's barely more intelligent than Hanity.

I believe our burden is always going to be that no one listens to us in the moment and everyone admits we were right in hindsight.

Someone even accused me of “hindsightism” on here a few days ago.

I’m pretty over it and I think I’m going to be muting more accounts from now on.

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Scared of a little context are you?

#1449549

I have a feeling you've never been right about anything of any consequence, hell you'd probably have cheered for the coup against Nixon that started all this. Keep hiding in smugness with nowhere to punch but up. Typical Misian-Marxist pathos.

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Mises Institute receives 5 visitors per day, very influential website

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At least Marxists have courage of ideology and a bent towards activism, Misians can't even compete in that market, abject losers all around.

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SN has more influence and reach than Mises, not a compliment

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1 sat \ 0 replies \ @kepford OP 9h -11 sats

Actually... this is complete bullshit as much as I like SN. You have no idea what you are talking about.

Zoom out. Communism has to be stopped. A world war is the only option left.