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The US still buys tonnes of shit from China, last I checked.
Yes, we should do likewise. Freedom ain't free.
The PRC is everything that good Bitcoiners would desire their own societies to not become. And it has proven itself desirous and semi-capable of exporting that tyranny. They cannot be permitted to obtain an ounce more of clay.
If war is an inevitable component of human existence, let this be the regime to bear the full brunt of it, lest the world devolve into the petty atheistic passive-agressive totalitarianism of @Solomonsatoshi and his "mixed" (unfree) economy.
Being on friendlier terms with Uncle Sam when translates from late empire sophistry to 'do as I say or I blow your fucking civilisation back to the stone ages'.
Trump is desperately mimicking Chinas state capitalism in areas like rare earths, micro chips, steel, oil, industrial policy. But his belated attempts are far too isolated and limited to adequately restore any semblance of competitive advantage to the antiquated US military industrial complex.
China has won the trade war and The Hormuz Crisis looks like being USAs Suez Crisis equivalent- where the once great empire is shown to no longer be capable of enforcing its will upon all others.
Take your time in dealing with reality...you clearly need it.
Actually, no, he isn't mimicking anything; he is doing what the US has done historically. When you flip the trade game on its head with dumping like China has this is the only way for any company to get off the ground. This is also why with certain deals that have been struck part of the agreements include the US divesting its stake once they are operational, profitable, and stable.
Trump is applying state capitalism in order to respond to Chinas state capitalism.
The 'free markets' do not have sufficient incentive to invest in certain strategically important sectors and USAs neoliberal free market rules policies have left it woefully exposed in terms of strategic supply chains and productive capacity.
USA cannot build ships competitively because most of its heavy industrial base has been outsourced to China.
Private for profit companies do not give a fuck about the nation state and its mercantile integrity and security- unless the nation state provides incentives and subsidies- this is what Trump is now belatedly doing in a clear mimicry of Chinas State Capitalism.
What do you think the New Deal was? Your understanding of US history is wildly lacking. TVA, FDIC, Import-Export Bank, and many, many more were created. Again. This isn't new. This is just the next evolution.
Maybe just maybe learn some US history before you act like we copied China
Being on friendlier terms with Uncle Sam when translates from late empire sophistry to 'do as I say or I blow your fucking civilisation back to the stone ages'.
This is what communists and the IRGC say to their civilians every day anyway. What's the problem with us doing it to you?
The concept of national sovereignty and the right to self determination, perhaps?
The vast majority of Iranians support their governments defense of their sovereignty and rights while most Americans do not support Trumps invasion of Iran.
Trumps brutal, chaotic, failed and unlawful invasion and serial war crimes have hardened the resolve of Iranians to not be slaves to US imperialism and its dictates.
Most westerners are more concerned about the price of filling up their tank than the right to dignity and peaceful development in the developing nations we have subjugated for decades if not centuries.
The vast majority of Iranians support their governments defense of their sovereignty and rights while most Americans do not support Trumps invasion of Iran.
There's plenty of Iranians who dislike the IRGC. The government kills them. But when we kill the IRGC it's a war crime? I don't get it.
Persian Americans requested this. It's really more of an internal affair than a US invasion. Not sure why the PRC feels entitled to give an opinion on it.
Ya gotta love the brain cells you lose talking to someone who is the perfect Russian, China, Iran puppet.
He just dials in on a single point within a topic and will never look around to see what else is going on. Country kills 30k of their own civilians, and the leadership gets bombed, and what happens? He defends the civilian killers.
'As my father said, governments come and go, but what endures is Iran itself – its civilisational greatness rooted in reverence for spirituality and wisdom rather than materialism and greed. Trump can destroy bridges and factories, but he cannot erase the will and know-how of a great nation.'
Yeah. The IRGC has to go. We're not at war with the nation of Iran. Do you think the US objective is to genocide Iranians? We want to cut off the PRC's oil supply and if the regime is ousted in the chaos that would be a nice bonus for literally everyone. The IRGC offers absolutely nothing to humanity. They can't even defend Iran from American missiles, which was their whole use case.
If we wanted to kill everyone we already have that option and we haven't taken it.
OK clanker
'*Circumvention mechanisms already exist and the conflict is encouraging more entities to work with them....
For years, sociologists and political scientists have warned that sanctions do not work. They do not topple targeted governments; instead, they hurt their citizens. And yet, the use of sanctions has only expanded, with the US leading the charge. As a result, there is now increasing evidence that this over-reliance on such punitive measures has led to their growing ineffectiveness. The US-Israel war on Iran has made that all the more obvious.
The conflict carries the potential to push further the process of weakening the effect of US sanctions, which had already been ongoing, and reshape the preferences of both regional and global actors through different mechanisms, including de-dollarisation, alternative trading methods such as barter, and informal transfer networks like hawala.
The US relies on the dominance of its currency in global trade to leverage the sanctions it imposes. Sanctioned states are unable to carry out sanctioned trade because buyers and sellers process payments in dollars.
The spread of cryptocurrency as an alternative payment method across the world has provided a way to circumvent this problem. Over the past few years, Iran has come to heavily rely on cryptocurrency for financial transactions.
A report by blockchain data platform Chainanalysis shows that cryptocurrency flows to sanctioned entities went up remarkably in 2025, with their value rising 694 percent to a record $154bn – up from $59bn in 2024. In the final quarter of the year, the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) alone accounted for 50 percent of value received – a total of $3bn.
Iran converts cryptocurrency holdings into renminbi, which is then used to buy Russian goods or conduct trade across Asian markets – embedding itself further into an alternative financial architecture that strengthens the renminbi.
The war on Iran may now expand the pool of economic actors willing to use cryptocurrency to deal with the Iranian state and entities. When Tehran took control over the Strait of Hormuz, a chokepoint through which approximately 20 percent of the world’s oil and LNG passes, it began demanding transit tolls from vessels navigating the strait.
The fees, typically starting at $1 per barrel, were payable in Bitcoin or renminbi, and reports have shown that a number of vessels and companies paid. Unlike stablecoins such as USDT, Bitcoin is fully decentralised and cannot be frozen by any issuer.
With approximately 175 million barrels currently loaded onto tankers in the Gulf, even partial toll collection could make considerable revenue if the strait reopens.
The use of renminbi is also significant. China is the biggest buyer of Iranian oil, and it pays in its own currency. But other countries have also started using the renminbi. In 2024, 30 percent of China’s external merchandise trade was paid for in its currency.
The toll mechanism is particularly significant in encouraging more companies to use the renminbi precisely because it has made the costs of dollar dependence impossible to ignore. Countries that have long endured the inconvenience of dollar-denominated trade are now facing its geopolitical risk in real time – watching the US weaponise the dollar access against allies and adversaries alike through secondary sanctions, waivers granted and suspended at will, and a blockade that disrupts global energy markets regardless of a country’s relationship with the US.
However, de-dollarisation via cryptocurrency and renminbi represents only one layer of the alternative financial architecture that the war is accelerating. Beneath the on-chain economy lies a more informal but equally significant set of mechanisms – hawala networks and barter arrangements – that the war and blockade may push further into the mainstream of regional and global trade.
Hawala is an informal transfer system that has existed for centuries. It operates through a network of brokers who enable payments in different locations without the physical movement of money. In the case of Iran, hawala works through trusted intermediaries – often shell companies established in various countries – that facilitate transactions on behalf of Iranian entities without directly linking deals to Iran, allowing for continued import and export activity.
The system produces shared benefits – commercial activity, transaction fees, employment, and demand for legal and logistics services – that give host countries a direct economic stake in its continuation. Beyond material advantage, these arrangements strengthen bilateral ties that host governments regard as strategically valuable amid mounting energy security concerns. Hawala, therefore, does not only help Iran evade sanctions – it quietly recruits regional economies as stakeholders in that evasion, embedding circumvention into the normal functioning of regional commerce.
The war is likely to enhance the appeal of already existing barter arrangements and attract a wider range of regional and global actors. In 2021, for example, Iran and Sri Lanka signed an agreement for the latter to repay its debt in the form of tea exports. A barter agreement also exists between Iran and Pakistan. India is now considering oil for rice swaps, and there is the potential for expanding exchanges of industrial goods with Russia. Each of these bypasses conventional banking channels, removing exposure to secondary sanctions and dollar-denominated settlement.
Most notably, Iran may now extend this model to the Strait of Hormuz itself, turning transit toll revenues into commodities traded across regional, Asian, and European markets and transforming a wartime chokepoint into a node within a broader barter-based alternative economy.
Nevertheless, dollar dominance is unlikely to unravel overnight. About 80 percent of global oil transactions remain dollar-settled, and the currency still makes up about 57 percent of global foreign exchange reserves – against just 2 percent for the renminbi, whose tight capital controls limit its convertibility and hinder its viability as a true reserve currency.
What the US-Israeli war is accelerating is not immediate substitution but gradual erosion – a slow-motion shift whose endpoint remains uncertain but whose direction is increasingly difficult to reverse.
Taken together, de-dollarisation, hawala networks, and barter arrangements divulge a structural paradox at the heart of the US-Israeli war strategy towards Iran. The war has generated an outcome its architects did not anticipate: Rather than dismantling Iran’s resistance infrastructure, it has internationalised it, expanding what analysts describe as an “axis of evasion”. If this trajectory is maintained, the long-term casualty may not be the Iranian state but the sanctions regime itself – and with it, the dollar’s hegemonic role as the tool of Western geopolitical imperialism.
For years, sociologists and political scientists have warned that sanctions do not work. They do not topple targeted governments; instead, they hurt their citizens.
Nonsense. This doesn't stop at cutting off the PRC's oil supply. Attrition works. We're not expecting to topple the communist regime with sanctions alone. This is just the beginning.
Your failed attack on Iran has demonstrated to all watching that US sanctions and military power projections are increasingly ineffective.
The world has changed.
The US empire is in decline.
Trump is struggling to deal with reality.
China won the trade war and Trump will go begging on his knees to Xi for renewed supply of rare earths because you have run out of Interceptors and the USS Gerald Ford aircraft carrier could now be sunk by a $7000 Shahed drone and any moment!
What failed attack? PRC's gas prices are going up. The attack is working fine.
You don't have any Interceptors left.
One wrong move and the USS Gerald Ford gets hit by a $7000 Shahed drone.
All aboard go down to feed the sharks!
The last vestiges of any credibility and viability for US imperialism will go down with it.
https://www.wsj.com/world/china/chinese-satellites-over-mideast-battlefield-put-u-s-on-edge-39e0d305
Iran is already done. Their water supply is completely dependent on Trump's mercy. Japan's navy hasn't even joined the game yet.
May 1st Trumps 60 day war powers end.
No interceptors, no rare earths, Big TACO Loser!
How sad and tragic an end to the empire.
Complicit with Greater Israel war crimes and genocide.
Trump and Bibi - Lock them up!
There are no limits on Trump's power. He could end the judicial system with one sentence.
They'll have to start buying from countries that are on friendlier terms with the US.