I have a suspicion you are right. But I'm not ready to give up on the usefulness of all other ideas.

> someone could have said the same thing of lightning when it was first being talked about

not even remotely comparable

> there might be some interesting ideas

There's no more levers to pull, just trust and centralization. Lightning is how it is for a reason.

justin_shocknet

You think that no one will ever figure out something as good as lightning?

Alright, someone’s gotta check out! Pro tip: you can stop reading once you hit 'New L2'. ahaaha

0xbitcoiner

I don't know. I suppose someone could have said the same thing of lightning when it was first being talked about. I agree that 99% of it will be total BS, but occasionally there might be some interesting ideas. I find it interesting to think about.